What could have been

[CF DolFan]

End of story huh? I had no idea you sign the checks.

If we are doing "what could have beens" why not go back to we could have had Brees, Rodgers, or even Bellichick for that matter. The truth remains we are not a good team coaching, players, front office, or otherwise. We are in the same position as 2007 ... just barely losing with the exception our players didn't quit on the coach this year. Well, as of yet anyways.  We need an overhaul and not just an oil change.

[Dolphster]

I'm glad to see Miami put a couple wins together.  But I'm keeping it in perspective.  The two wins were against bad teams.  With the Fins being the poor team that they are, I'll take any wins they can get.  But beating a couple other bad teams doesn't make them a force to be reckoned with. 

[Brian Fein]

So, every year there will be 15 or so teams that think they can win the Super Bowl.

The other 17 teams who think they have no chance, will lose every game on purpose in an effort to land a better first round pick so they can try again next year.

Sure, way to ruin the integrity of the game.

[CF DolFan]

^^^^ Parody doesn't allow for that during most seasons. Just like when we selected Ronnie Brown at #2... it really didn't make much of a difference where we drafted. Number 1 and 2 QBs had plenty of questions with even Aaron Rodgers dropping all the way to number 24.  This is an unusual year where it appears there are a couple of top QBS who do not come with as many questions.

[Phishfan]

I just don't get this...

This team can't win a super bowl.  They are anywhere close.  These close losses are tricking you into thinking you that they're close.  They're not.  Even if we overperform and get 9 wins, there's no way that this team is anywhere close to making a playoff run.  They'd probably get blown out in the first game. 

I would argue that wins right now hurt the long-term viability of this franchise.  ...and not just for a better draft pick, but because it makes an argument to keep the same pathetic tactics that we've been up to.

We have been picking up and drafting 2nd rate quarterbacks for decades.  I was afraid of winning a few games.  It gets people talking about how good Moore is going to be next year and stuff like that.  ...conversations we shouldn't be having.

I don't think any of us are discussing Moore is a good QB or that this team is anywhere near a Super Bowl. Dave, I really think your desire to lose games (which is a complete surprise and disappointment to me) has clouded your ability to see what it is we are saying.

[Brian Fein]

Dave, I really think your desire to lose games (which is a complete surprise and disappointment to me)

Me too, I never expected Dave to go to the dark side.

[tubba marxxx]

End of story huh? I had no idea you sign the checks.

That's your argument?  I don't sign the checks?  It's painfully obvious that Sparano will not be back next season.  However, Ross DOES sign the checks..and with that moron calling the shots, nothing surprises me.

^^^^ Parody doesn't allow for that during most seasons. Just like when we selected Ronnie Brown at #2... it really didn't make much of a difference where we drafted. Number 1 and 2 QBs had plenty of questions with even Aaron Rodgers dropping all the way to number 24.  This is an unusual year where it appears there are a couple of top QBS who do not come with as many questions.

I get what you're saying, but my original argument was that Miami was 3 blown wins away from bring "in the thick of it"  didn't say they were going to make the playoffs..didn't say they were going to "make some noise."  I was going more long the lines of a more traditional Dolphins season.  Hang around mid-season and then fall apart in December.  That's the Dolphins we all know and love.  That was the point I was trying to make.  I'm not talking about the f*cking draft or who's going to be our 2012 quarterback..there's 70934968 other threads devoted that very topic in almost every forum here.  

[tubba marxxx]

So, every year there will be 15 or so teams that think they can win the Super Bowl.

The other 17 teams who think they have no chance, will lose every game on purpose in an effort to land a better first round pick so they can try again next year.

Sure, way to ruin the integrity of the game.

Couldn't have said it better

[Cathal]

Hang around mid-season and then fall apart in December.  That's the Dolphins we all know and love.  That was the point I was trying to make.

I don't know about "love" with the falling apart in December part.  That's probably another reason why people want them to fail so the owner and everyone else realizes they need big changes, and not just stupid incremental changes that gets you no where and keeps you in the falling apart department.

[tubba marxxx]

^^  if there was sarcasm font for the word "love"..trust me I would have used it LOL


There's a reason this site is called "The Dolphins Make Me Cry"

[Spider-Dan]

Speaking of clouding the ability to see what others are saying...

So, every year there will be 15 or so teams that think they can win the Super Bowl.

The other 17 teams who think they have no chance, will lose every game on purpose in an effort to land a better first round pick so they can try again next year.

Sure, way to ruin the integrity of the game.

Why do you (plural) continue to insist that someone is proposing that Miami intentionally throw games?

I mean, I know it makes for a nice talking point and all, but nobody is advocating that.  Have you heard anyone on this board call for Pat Devlin to start, or say that Jake Long should be sitting while we get some experience for our backups?

Hoping for a loss is not a call to throw games, any more than hoping for a win is a call to give the players PEDs and tape the opponents' practices.

[jtex316]

I don't understand.  So every season is Super Bowl or bust? 

Yes.

[CF DolFan]

Speaking of clouding the ability to see what others are saying...
Why do you (plural) continue to insist that someone is proposing that Miami intentionally throw games?

I mean, I know it makes for a nice talking point and all, but nobody is advocating that.  Have you heard anyone on this board call for Pat Devlin to start, or say that Jake Long should be sitting while we get some experience for our backups?

Hoping for a loss is not a call to throw games, any more than hoping for a win is a call to give the players PEDs and tape the opponents' practices.

Is that where the communication gap lies? If so that could explain some things. Brian was a huge Fiedler fan so I just write off his opinion as being ok with mediocrity.   J/K Brian!! 

[Brian Fein]

Is that where the communication gap lies? If so that could explain some things. Brian was a huge Fiedler fan so I just write off his opinion as being ok with mediocrity.   J/K Brian!! 

Look back at the 16 bums that were starting at QB since 2000, and Fiedler is still the best of the sorry bunch.

[Pappy13]

Look back at the 16 bums that were starting at QB since 2000, and Fiedler is still the best of the sorry bunch.

Holy crap I just realized that it was 2004 when Fiedler was still starting for the Dolphins. I would have thought it was like 10 years ago or more. When you said 2000, I was wondering if that was really his last year in Miami and then saw it was 2004 and 2000 was his first. Amazing. It feels like so much longer ago.