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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2011, 04:36:03 pm »
The bright side is we really have until the rest of the season to see what Moore can do, but if he is just serviceable and "Fiedleresque", we still need to draft a QB. I just hope one is available from where we draft. If we keep winning, we will be out of the Top 10 and maybe even Top 15.
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2011, 04:46:48 pm »
ANYTIME a team is in position to draft a quarterback with real franchise potential, they should seriously contemplate doing it. I don't care if you're Green Bay with Rodgers in his prime...
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2011, 04:51:00 pm »
Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on November 20, 2011, 04:36:03 pm
The bright side is we really have until the rest of the season to see what Moore can do, but if he is just serviceable and "Fiedleresque", we still need to draft a QB. I just hope one is available from where we draft. If we keep winning, we will be out of the Top 10 and maybe even Top 15.

at the rate the Fins are winning with games vs Oak and Buffalo left Miami could win a few more. Miami is going to have to trade a 2012 first round pick and a 2011 2nd round pick at the very least to move up and get one. If its even available to them. You might have teams up there that won't trade down no matter what, especially if they need a QB (ie Arizona, Washington...etc). It might mean giving up more if need be.

Matt Moore can win AFC Player of the week every week from now till Christmas, he can't be the #1 QB going into training camp next year. A few good games vs a dead KC and Wash team and a Buffalo team beat up by injuries and on the slide can't fool level headed football people and it won't. If a few idiot fans want to get all giddy about Matt Moore they are entitled but the guy isn't a starter in this league.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2011, 05:52:43 pm »
Quote from: MikeO on November 20, 2011, 04:51:00 pm
at the rate the Fins are winning with games vs Oak and Buffalo left Miami could win a few more. Miami is going to have to trade a 2012 first round pick and a 2011 2nd round pick at the very least to move up and get one. If its even available to them.

Let's say the Phins end up 7-9 like last year and pick right around the middle of the pack. A package of the 2012 and 2012 first round picks should be enough to get up around pick #7. If there really are four good quarterbacks (as some have indicated), I can't believe that wouldn't be enough to get one of them.

And, like I said above, if you get a chance to grab somebody you believe has franchise potential...
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2011, 06:04:15 pm »
Quote from: fyo on November 20, 2011, 05:52:43 pm
Let's say the Phins end up 7-9 like last year and pick right around the middle of the pack. A package of the 2012 and 2012 first round picks should be enough to get up around pick #7. If there really are four good quarterbacks (as some have indicated), I can't believe that wouldn't be enough to get one of them.

And, like I said above, if you get a chance to grab somebody you believe has franchise potential...

True. Thing is I'm not sold on Griff3 as a legit top half of the draft NFL QB. He seems more like a project at the next level in my eyes. Because of the style of offense plays in. Now he may shine at the combine and stuff and shoot up draft boards. But from my eyes I'm not sold on him just yet. That's just me though.

Just keep rooting for Seattle and Washington to win. Cause if they are picking ahead of us Miami is screwed
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2011, 02:34:41 am »
Quote from: MikeO on November 20, 2011, 06:04:15 pm
True. Thing is I'm not sold on Griff3 as a legit top half of the draft NFL QB. He seems more like a project at the next level in my eyes. Because of the style of offense plays in. Now he may shine at the combine and stuff and shoot up draft boards. But from my eyes I'm not sold on him just yet. That's just me though.

Just keep rooting for Seattle and Washington to win. Cause if they are picking ahead of us Miami is screwed

I agree.  I think he has huge potential, but will he be able to develop it on the next level?  I dunno, and it may take while before anyone sees it.  I'm about 50/50 on Griff3
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2011, 10:01:21 am »
Quote from: MikeO on November 20, 2011, 04:51:00 pm
at the rate the Fins are winning with games vs Oak and Buffalo left Miami could win a few more. Miami is going to have to trade a 2012 first round pick and a 2011 2nd round pick at the very least to move up and get one. If its even available to them. You might have teams up there that won't trade down no matter what, especially if they need a QB (ie Arizona, Washington...etc). It might mean giving up more if need be.

Matt Moore can win AFC Player of the week every week from now till Christmas, he can't be the #1 QB going into training camp next year. A few good games vs a dead KC and Wash team and a Buffalo team beat up by injuries and on the slide can't fool level headed football people and it won't. If a few idiot fans want to get all giddy about Matt Moore they are entitled but the guy isn't a starter in this league.
Okay I guess I am an idiot I didn't like Moore but he has changed my mind.I will admit that he has played above and beyond what I thought he could.Our offense is playing better every week and our defense is playing the way they should have.
I would put that dolphins team from yesterday against any team ,patriots,greenbay,etc so don't say it was the bills.Lucky win.Did you know our defense has kept opponents from scoring tds in twelve quarters"thats three games"
I did the math for you and yes I am calling you an idiot I am sick of fans like you.
You bought into suck for luck and now that is gone so you hate winning.Here's an idea come thursday put on your jersey get a beer in your coosey and root for the dolphins and be happy if they win.
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2011, 10:11:19 am »
Quote from: phinphan on November 21, 2011, 10:01:21 am
Okay I guess I am an idiot I didn't like Moore but he has changed my mind.I will admit that he has played above and beyond what I thought he could.Our offense is playing better every week and our defense is playing the way they should have.
I would put that dolphins team from yesterday against any team ,patriots,greenbay,etc so don't say it was the bills.Lucky win.Did you know our defense has kept opponents from scoring tds in twelve quarters"thats three games"
I did the math for you and yes I am calling you an idiot I am sick of fans like you.
You bought into suck for luck and now that is gone so you hate winning.Here's an idea come thursday put on your jersey get a beer in your coosey and root for the dolphins and be happy if they win.


If Matt Moore really can be the guy moving forward, then, hooray. But, I don't think he will be and with these wins over some bad teams, I had a feeling some people would be like, "hey, this Matt Moore seems to be a really good guy, maybe we don't need to spend money on a possible franchise QB." And, by the looks of it, phinphan seems to be one of those people.  Smiley But, if they have to fall out of the race for the top prospect QBs this year, then, fine, I'll be happy when they win.
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2011, 01:46:52 pm »
WIN FOR GINN!

Retro.
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2011, 02:08:13 pm »
I can't wait for the "Moore signs 6 year $50 million extension"  headline


wait for it.....
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2011, 02:10:23 pm »
LOL
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2011, 05:41:04 pm »
Quote from: phinphan on November 21, 2011, 10:01:21 am

I did the math for you and yes I am calling you an idiot I am sick of fans like you.
You bought into suck for luck and now that is gone so you hate winning.Here's an idea come thursday put on your jersey get a beer in your coosey and root for the dolphins and be happy if they win.


Screw you buddy. Who pissed in your corn flakes? Now I am the "only fan" who was on the Suck for Luck bandwagon?  Are you serious. By the way,  I have been defending the defense every week since week 1. Might want to read this message board once in a while.

And I'm sorry if I am not giddy about Matt Moore considering the 2 of the 3 teams he played well against totally suck. And Buffalo is in a huge tailspin. Go beat Dallas, Jets, Philly, Pats.....then maybe I will change my mind. Until then Matt Moore is still a bad QB who is having a hot streak. God bless him for doing it, but if you want to give him a 6 year extension like the Bills gave Fitzpatrick after his hot-streak in September/October then you are as dumb as they are.
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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2011, 06:13:25 pm »
WHOOOOOOOOAAAAAAA. Bullshit you've been defending the defense. You've killed Cam Wake EVERY chance you get, and blasted everyone else not named Dansby or Burnett on occasion as well. In fact, all you've done all season long is pop off about how bad everyone on the whole damn team is except those two. BTW, in case you hadn't noticed, even coming off of a one catch game, Marshall is now 5th in the league in receptions, 8th in yards, and Wake still leads the team in sacks. Guessing you still want both of them gone next season along with everyone else too though. -EK
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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2011, 07:56:32 pm »
Quote from: EKnight on November 21, 2011, 06:13:25 pm
WHOOOOOOOOAAAAAAA. Bullshit you've been defending the defense. You've killed Cam Wake EVERY chance you get, and blasted everyone else not named Dansby or Burnett on occasion as well. In fact, all you've done all season long is pop off about how bad everyone on the whole damn team is except those two. BTW, in case you hadn't noticed, even coming off of a one catch game, Marshall is now 5th in the league in receptions, 8th in yards, and Wake still leads the team in sacks. Guessing you still want both of them gone next season along with everyone else too though. -EK

And I killed Wake and Rashed Jones in another post yesterday they have been terrible this year no two ways about it. But I have been here every week saying the defense (AS A UNIT) was playing good enough to win and the offense has let us down. And the past 3 weeks the defense picked up its play (granted it has been vs 3 bad teams but nonetheless they raised their game)

And the whole team is STILL bad. 3-7!!! We are 3-7!! I haven't changed on that. 3/4 offense needs to go and to get to a playoff level team on defense we need to replace 2 linebackers and 2 in the secondary at least. But we didn't get to 0-7 because of the defense. It was mainly because of the offense. The defense isn't to flight but it has been good enough to win games!

P.S....Marshall dropped ANOTHER touchdown yesterday, what the hell are you bragging about? All he does is drop big passes! And you are still defending him? LOL
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« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2011, 11:40:23 pm »
Quote from: EKnight on November 21, 2011, 06:13:25 pm
WHOOOOOOOOAAAAAAA. Bullshit you've been defending the defense. You've killed Cam Wake EVERY chance you get, and blasted everyone else not named Dansby or Burnett on occasion as well. In fact, all you've done all season long is pop off about how bad everyone on the whole damn team is except those two. BTW, in case you hadn't noticed, even coming off of a one catch game, Marshall is now 5th in the league in receptions, 8th in yards, and Wake still leads the team in sacks. Guessing you still want both of them gone next season along with everyone else too though. -EK


Quote from: MikeO on November 21, 2011, 05:41:04 pm
Screw you buddy. Who pissed in your corn flakes? Now I am the "only fan" who was on the Suck for Luck bandwagon?  Are you serious. By the way,  I have been defending the defense every week since week 1. Might want to read this message board once in a while.

And I'm sorry if I am not giddy about Matt Moore considering the 2 of the 3 teams he played well against totally suck. And Buffalo is in a huge tailspin. Go beat Dallas, Jets, Philly, Pats.....then maybe I will change my mind. Until then Matt Moore is still a bad QB who is having a hot streak. God bless him for doing it, but if you want to give him a 6 year extension like the Bills gave Fitzpatrick after his hot-streak in September/October then you are as dumb as they are.

More fucking drama in a perfectly good thread.   Roll Eyes
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