Get Ready: Sparano is not a lock to be fired

[tubba marxxx]

Which is it Mike, Henne can't throw or Marshall can't catch? Henne may have not been great this year, but he was light years ahead of last. Amd the New England game? 475 yards total offense and 3 TDs. I actually hope they resign Henne and keep Sparano- you're warped sense of football would be too entertaining to miss. -EK

Both.  a very crappy New England secondary made Henne look better than he was.  It's RARE that I defend Mike on something, but to say Henne was "light-years" better than last year is a stretch to say the very least.  Henne had no excuses to be mediocre again this year.  I'm sure someone will make the cliche "there was a lockout excuse,"  everyone experienced a lockout..so it's a cop-out to go there.  But it was a "new offense" right?  I remember Miami dropping the ball on that one.  Remember when the lockout was randomly lifted during the draft so players could receive their playbooks?  Guess who didn't have their playbooks ready..oh that's right, the Dolphins didn't.  Who's fault is that?  The Coaches. 

But anyways..BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POINT OF THIS CONVERSATION:  I'm ready for some new coaches.  :-)

[MikeO]

Which is it Mike, Henne can't throw or Marshall can't catch? Henne may have not been great this year, but he was light years ahead of last. Amd the New England game? 475 yards total offense and 3 TDs. I actually hope they resign Henne and keep Sparano- you're warped sense of football would be too entertaining to miss. -EK

BOTH! Marshall drops easy balls every week (no matter who the QB is) and drops way too many touchdowns to be considered good or elite. And Henne sucks. It's not an either or! They both are flawed players. Check that, Marshall is a flawed player and Henne just sucks.

We lost to NE! Does that matter to you? We the lost the game. When we keep score in yards let me know. We keep score in points and we lost because Henne had the offense stalled in the redzone and settled for FG's too many times.! And the Pats have one of the worst defenses in the league too; not surprising Henne's best game came vs one of the worst defenses. And the fact you have only 1 "good" game to point to in Henne's career says it all!  And if you think Henne was light years better than last year in the 3 games and 1 quarter he played you are lost. Lost in space!! And if you want Henne and Sparano back you aren't even a Dolphins fan. Go put on your Jets hat or something.

[tubba marxxx]

If moral victories counted, Miami would be 6 - 4 and in sole position of second place in the AFC east and tied with the Bengals for the last wildcard spot

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

If moral victories counted, Miami would be 6 - 4 and in sole position of second place in the AFC east and tied with the Bengals for the last wildcard spot

Moral victories don't count in the standings...but when judging a coach or a team I would say that if

Team A has an 7-9 record having lost 9 of those games by less then 4 points and won 6 by 35 points or more.

and

Team B has a 9-7 record having lost 6 of them by 20 or more point and won 8 of them by less then 4 points

then there is a very good chance that team A is the better coached, better playing team.

[Pappy13]

Lets say he does run the table.  Doesn't that mean he is a good enough coach to take a team that by any objective measure should have lost all hope and turn them around?  Isn't that what you want in a coach? 

You want him? We'll take yours.

Seriously though, no I don't want that coach, at least not in his 4th year with the team. Now if it was Sparano's first year and he starts out 0-7 and then wins a few, you see progress, but when the first year he's 11-5 and then back to back 7-9 and then starts out 0-7, he's clearly NOT what you are looking for.

[Pappy13]

Notice - no one's talking about red zone struggles anymore.  No one's talking about blown 4th quarter leads anymore.  No one is talking about Sparano's house for sale.

You posted this 1 day too soon.  Wish I would have seen this on Wednesday, I would have told you then it was too quick to start talking about a turnaround.

Maybe Henne was the problem all along.  They seem to be playing better without him.

Because they beat KC, Washington and Buffalo?  Henne managed a win against GB and Tennessee last year before getting hurt. Both of those wins were against better competition than any of the last 3. Henne has never been the problem, he's just never been the solution either.

Just keep that possibility in your mind that Tony Sparano will coach the Miami Dolphins in 2012.

Oh, I don't doubt that he could be back for 2012, in fact I created a thread that asked how many wins he needed to save his job and I believe that some will want him back at the end of the year, but it would be a mistake to bring him back.

[Pappy13]

Maybe Sparano was a bad coach and then with experience got better.

Based on what? 3 meaningless wins? C'mon hoodie. I know why you want us to keep Sparano and it has nothing to do with him being a good coach. 

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

You want him? We'll take yours.

No thanks.  One is one of the greatest of all times and the best of his era.  The other might be turning into a decent coach.

[/quote]

Based on what? 3 meaningless wins? C'mon hoodie. I know why you want us to keep Sparano and it has nothing to do with him being a good coach. 

I think you know me better than that.  I am honest in what I think is in the best interest of the Dolphins.  Sometimes I will add that I hope the Dolphins do the opposite of what I think is best, as I did in this thread...http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php/topic,19440.msg247070.html#msg247070.

It might actually be the that Sparano is developing into a good coach.  (Not Belichick, Shula elite level, but decent).  I wouldn't say that if I didn't believe it.  It is not like the Dolphins make decisions based on what I post. 

[Dave Gray]

Sparano is still too conservative for my taste.  It's good to see him improve in terms of motivating players, but his play calling style is too old-school for me.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Sparano is still too conservative for my taste.  It's good to see him improve in terms of motivating players, but his play calling style is too old-school for me.

Which baffles me, as to why.  The team had great success (10 game improvement over prior year, qualifies as great even if you go one and done in the playoffs) when the team went balls to the wall pulling every trick out of the book and then went conserative afterwards. 

[Phishfan]

Which baffles me, as to why.  The team had great success (10 game improvement over prior year, qualifies as great even if you go one and done in the playoffs) when the team went balls to the wall pulling every trick out of the book and then went conserative afterwards. 

I think the wildcat is about as conservative as you can get. It was just "new" (I used the quotes because it really isn't a new concept at all) so people thought it was innovative. There really was not much of a shift except we threw out of the wildcat less. I think it is a misconception.

[Dave Gray]

I get frustrated when I see us punting on 4th and 1 at midfield.  I just don't agree with that mindset, in general.  On top of that, we're clearly going nowhere, so why not go for the jugular and send a message that we're in it to win it...rather than to stretch out a game for a chance to steal a win late.

That's the culture of the NFL right now, overall, and I don't agree with it at all.  NFL teams punt WAY, WAY, WAY too much, in my opinion.

[Pappy13]

I think you know me better than that.  I am honest in what I think is in the best interest of the Dolphins.

Yes, I think you're honest, but I don't think you're unbiased. You haven't seen as much of Sparano as most of us have. Wins and losses don't effect you as much. For an outsider it's easier to see 3 wins and think hey they are getting better, but most of us haven't just watched the last 3 games, we've watched the whole year and thought at the beginning of the year, we would win all 3 of those games plus a couple more. So while the 3 wins are nice the couple we shouldn't have lost show the direction of the team more than the 3 wins do.  They aren't getting better, at most they are finally getting to the point they should have been all season long and overall have played below expectations.

[Phishfan]

That's the culture of the NFL right now, overall, and I don't agree with it at all.  NFL teams punt WAY, WAY, WAY too much, in my opinion.

I was screaming that San Diego needed to punt rather than try a second 53 yarder after Denver called that timeout yesterday.

[masterfins]

Sparano will not be back next year.  After the Harbaugh fiasco last year he must be fired before potential coaches will even talk to Miami.  Miami, at best will win 3 more games this year, to put them at 6 wins for the year; that's not enough to save Sparano, nor Ireland.  The new coach will have a pretty good base to rebuild upon though.