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« on: November 23, 2011, 03:39:42 pm »

...just to support your misery and desire for overhaul.

I see a lot of people saying:

"The teams they beat are the bottom of the league."

That's true, but they aren't squeaking out wins here.  They are demolishing these teams.  Like any good team should.

No TD's allowed in 3 games.  I don't care who you play, that's impressive
Combined 86-20 score in 3 games.

If they were narrowly squeaking out wins 21-20 against KC, then fine.  But, this same Buffalo team beat the Patriots.  The same Washington team that took Dallas to OT last week (and should have won).

Give them credit where its due.  They are playing well.  I don't know how who they have to beat before you stop discounting the team for doing something good.
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2011, 03:43:37 pm »

I don't know how who they have to beat before you stop discounting the team for doing something good.
Whoever wins the NFC Championship.

Haven't you noticed  that anyone who fails short of winning the Super Bowl is wide open to computer criticism? In fact many super bowl winners get their share too.  I wouldn't get too caught up in looking for people to change their mind. Fact is most have already made it up and only look for things to support their position.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2011, 03:44:58 pm »

Bravo Brian!
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2011, 03:47:35 pm »

^^ I guess that's what bothers me.  No one keeps an open mind.  People who decided 3 years ago that Chad Henne sucks can't observe improvement.  They just stick to it, even if its not true.

People need to understand it is a dynamic sport, and people change, improve or regress.  What you saw 5 weeks ago may not be true now, or 5 weeks from now.

The Dolphins are playing well, and I'm not wetting my pants and thinking Super Bowl here, but I recognize that today's Miami Dolphins are vastly improved over the week 2 Miami Dolphins.

Seems that I'm alone on that one, though.
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2011, 03:52:37 pm »

Brian, the problem is that this improvement has come about two weeks too late to matter.  Now, the only thing it accomplishes is reducing our chances for real, sustained improvement.  Oh, that and "pride"; the same kind of "pride" we felt in 2003 when a meaningless string of out-of-contention wins kept Wanny on the job for another year (see: your other most recent topic).
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2011, 03:57:30 pm »

See, I don't feel that it is meaningless.  That's your opinion.  I disagree.
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2011, 04:07:09 pm »

Excellent Post Brian......I have been happier than a pig in shit with these 3 victories. Destroying the Bills on Sunday was epic and put me in a great mood. The team has been playing great and you are correct....not allowing a TD in three straight games is a damned good feat I don't care who you are or who you play.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2011, 04:13:49 pm »

Spider-Dan is about right with how I feel. I'm excited that the team won and won in convincing fashion. They're finally playing like I thought they should be playing starting this year. But, even though they've been winning, it's pretty meaningless in the regard that it'll probably put us in mid-pack for a draft choice. It isn't meaningless because of the "pride" because it shows the players aren't laying down even though the season is more than likely over.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2011, 04:15:02 pm »

Now, the only thing it accomplishes is reducing our chances for real, sustained improvement. 

Pure conjecture.
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2011, 04:21:06 pm »

Go ahead and get ready, though. If Miami wins tomorrow, it'll be all, "Romo had turkey in his eye," or "Miles Austin was still hurt." Some people are never satisfied. -EK
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2011, 04:23:53 pm »

Excellent Post Brian......I have been happier than a pig in shit with these 3 victories. Destroying the Bills on Sunday was epic and put me in a great mood. The team has been playing great and you are correct....not allowing a TD in three straight games is a damned good feat I don't care who you are or who you play.

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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2011, 06:17:55 pm »

Pure conjecture.
In sports, there are exactly two kinds of discussions:

1) analysis of what has already happened
2) conjecture about what will happen
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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2011, 06:20:52 pm »

See, I don't feel that it is meaningless.  That's your opinion.  I disagree.
Well, strictly speaking, it's not meaningless; if these late wins allow Sparano to keep his job, I'd argue that they are actively detrimental.

From a historical viewpoint, how did you feel about Wanny keeping his job after the 2003 season?
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2011, 06:35:04 pm »

I'm sorry Brian, but this defense was up against two teams that were one dimensional and banged up on offense (KC and Buffalo), and a third team that flat out sucks (Washington).

If they don't allow a TD at Dallas, with all the weapons they have on offense, then my eyebrow will definitely go up a notch.
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2011, 06:45:46 pm »

If Miami wins tomorrow it will be impressive as Dallas is a playoff caliber team. But coming off back to back 7-9 seasons. Then an 0-7 start this year you can't give this team and franchise credit for 3 good weeks I'm sorry.  This team and coaching staff has been miserable for 3 years that doesn't go away in 3 weeks beating KC, Washington, and Buffalo. (they didn't beat Buffalo at home last December and possibly get to the playoffs when the game mattered; beating them when your 2-7 and the season is over I can't get excited about.)

And I sure as hell am not giving Chad Henne credit for the fact when he plays Miami was in the middle of a 10 game losing streak with him under center. He was the there for the majority of it. Then when he is out and Matt Moore takes over they win some games and look better.  IF that isn't a clear sign that Chad Henne can't play I really don't know what you people are watching every Sunday afternoon.
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