Henne or Moore

[Pappy13]

Henne needed surgery, that is why he went on IR.

He needed surgery to his non throwing shoulder. That doesn't mean he had to go to IR and it certainly doesn't mean he can't play again next year when it's healed.  The injury has NOTHING to do with his future in the NFL. That's all that I was pointing out.

If Miami had started 4-0 and he had been playing lights out, do you think Miami would have put him on IR?  I don't. I think they would have kept him on the bench and hoped that he could come back before the end of the year. Circumstances dictated there was no point in NOT putting him on IR. He wasn't coming back this year even if healthy.

[masterfins]

Back on topic, Matt Moore has played better and something to be said for our offense scoring 30 points a game or more with him in there. 

Very good point, one of my complaints last year was that the Fins couldn't score 30 pts in a game.

[MikeO]

He needed surgery to his non throwing shoulder. That doesn't mean he had to go to IR and it certainly doesn't mean he can't play again next year when it's healed.  The injury has NOTHING to do with his future in the NFL. That's all that I was pointing out.

If Miami had started 4-0 and he had been playing lights out, do you think Miami would have put him on IR?  I don't. I think they would have kept him on the bench and hoped that he could come back before the end of the year. Circumstances dictated there was no point in NOT putting him on IR. He wasn't coming back this year even if healthy.

But Miami wasn't 4-0 and the main reason was because Henne sucked. Why bring him back at all. He can't play in this league! He is a very bad QB! Also, Henne WANTED the surgery cause he is a FA this offseason and wants to be healthy on the open market. He doesn't want to re-sign with Miami. He needs to be healthy for his next job.  It wasn't only Miami's call either. Henne had a say and wanted the surgery, it is his shoulder ya know! 

[el diablo]

Considering everything, Henne will be signed as a back up somewhere.  He was better than some other starters out there this year. To say he's finished in the NFL is absurd. He's just finished in Miami.

[MikeO]

Considering everything, Henne will be signed as a back up somewhere.  He was better than some other starters out there this year. To say he's finished in the NFL is absurd. He's just finished in Miami.

What NFL starter is Henne better than? And don't give me Haine or Yates because they are backups forced into action. Aside from Colt McCoy (who is slightly better than Henne) Chad Henne is far worse than every other NFL starter out there currently.

[Frimp]

^^^

Kevin Kolb

[BigDaddyFin]

^^^^
Sanchez.

[JVides]

There's a LOT more to not getting hit besides being mobile. Actually if you were to check the records, some of the MOST mobile QB's are the ones that got sacked the most often. Guys like Marino and Manning actually throw the ball away a LOT more than the average QB to avoid being sacked.
Here's some shocking stats for you to ponder.


Player    Sacks  Attempts/Sack
Marino    270    30.96
Manning   227    30.70
Favre     503    19.50
Aikman    259    18.20
Fouts     319    17.57
Montana   313    17.22
Moon      458    14.90
Kelly     323    14.80
Elway     516    14.05
Tarkenton 483    13.39
Young     358    11.59
Griese    335    10.24
Staubach  313     9.45

Evidence of the old Marino mantra "pick a guy and let it fly".

As for the answer: Moore.  As much as I wanted/hoped for Henne to be the guy, you only bring him back if you strike out in the draft, he comes cheap, and the new coach reaaally thinks he can make him a very good QB.

[Pappy13]

But Miami wasn't 4-0 and the main reason was because Henne sucked.

Fair enough, if that's the way you see it. So drop the fact that his non throwing shoulder has been operated on. It has NOTHING to do with his future status in the NFL. NOTHING.

[JVides]

But Miami wasn't 4-0 and the main reason was because Henne sucked.

I'm pretty sure that # 32 against the pass defense during the first 4 weeks of the season had something to do with it too.  To say he was the main reason is a reach, IMO.

[MikeO]

^^^

Kevin Kolb

Kolb and Sanchez (as someone mentioned below) are BOTH better than Moore. I'm sorry.

Kolb has been hurt but I would take Kolb in a heartbeat over Matt Moore. It's not even close

[MikeO]

Fair enough, if that's the way you see it. So drop the fact that his non throwing shoulder has been operated on. It has NOTHING to do with his future status in the NFL. NOTHING.

His failure to convert in the redzone, win games, and put up decent numbers is why his NFL career is limited if not very short.

[MikeO]

I'm pretty sure that # 32 against the pass defense during the first 4 weeks of the season had something to do with it too.  To say he was the main reason is a reach, IMO.

No, we lost to Houston and Cleveland because we couldn't score any friggin points. Defense was fine those weeks.

[Frimp]

Kolb and Sanchez (as someone mentioned below) are BOTH better than Moore. I'm sorry.

Kolb has been hurt but I would take Kolb in a heartbeat over Matt Moore. It's not even close

Kolb who couldnt do crap with Larry Fitzgerald is better than Moore? You've lost it, buddy.

[BigDaddyFin]

Sanchez who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat is better than Moore?  I don't buy that either.  The guy's best play is bounce it off a defender and hope it hits somebody on his own team.