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« on: December 20, 2011, 12:03:45 pm »

Instead of complaining about the yearly rejoicing of another team's first loss of the season, I'll simply ask the question: "Why is the 1972 Miami Dolphins perfect season so important to this day?"

The 1929 Green Bay Packers went undefeated. Why aren't Green Bay Packer fans celebrating each season as the last of the unbeatens gets beat?

1972 was 40 seasons ago, and most of us weren't even alive when it happened, much less old enough to care about sports if you were alive or born around that time.

Will 1972 be less important if the Dolphins win another Super Bowl? If Mercury Morris dies? If another team goes to 19-0? In 10 years from now?

In all seriousness I am just trying to understand today's significance of yesterday's accomplishment.
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 12:31:08 pm »

If the Packers had celebrated losing last weekend.... well, that would have just been weird.

What's the deal with fireworks on the 4th of July? That shit happened so long ago.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 12:39:13 pm »

If the Packers had celebrated losing last weekend.... well, that would have just been weird.


I do wonder what the fan reaction would be to Mercury Morris opening a bottle of champaign to the Dolphins losing if they were ever the last team to lose a game. 
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 01:14:51 pm »

The 1929 Green Bay Packers went undefeated. Why aren't Green Bay Packer fans celebrating each season as the last of the unbeatens gets beat?
Because the 1929 Packers didn't win every game.  They had a tie.

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1972 was 40 seasons ago, and most of us weren't even alive when it happened, much less old enough to care about sports if you were alive or born around that time.
I guess that's why no one cared about the home run race in 1998, right?  That was a 37-year-old record at the time.

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Will 1972 be less important if the Dolphins win another Super Bowl?
Probably not, since they won another Super Bowl the year after their perfect season.

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If another team goes to 19-0?
This is the only thing that would make any difference.

I'm not sure why you seem to have some sort of crazy belief that records become less significant with time.  Do you think people will stop caring about DiMaggio's hit streak or Wilt's 100-point game in twenty more years?
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2011, 01:19:42 pm »

The really hypocritical thing is that while he seems to believe the record is less significant, he waited with baited breath and started a thread about how two Dolphin records were going to fall this year. Consistency please? -EK
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2011, 01:31:17 pm »

"Why is the 1972 Miami Dolphins perfect season so important to this day?"
For the same reason that it was a big deal when Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth's all time HR record and when Aaron's record was broken.  Historical perspective.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2011, 01:34:24 pm »

^^ not to mention it is one of the few things the Dolphin fan's have left. 

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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2011, 01:36:11 pm »

The really hypocritical thing is that while he seems to believe the record is less significant, he waited with baited breath and started a thread about how two Dolphin records were going to fall this year. Consistency please? -EK

How is this hypocritical? Do you even know what the word means?

I'm starting to see why MikeO really has it out for you. You're kind of annoying just to be annoying.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2011, 01:38:50 pm »

Spider Dan:

1. The word "undefeated" means that the team was not defeated. A tie isn't being defeated. Therefore, they went undefeated.

2. The 1998 homerun steroid chase was 100% entirely different and you know that.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2011, 01:39:01 pm »

I do wonder what the fan reaction would be to Mercury Morris opening a bottle of champaign to the Dolphins losing if they were ever the last team to lose a game. 
Mercury Morris and the other members of the Dolphins '72 squad have not opened a bottle of champaign when the last team lost for many years.  In fact I believe that only happened once and it was only because several of the players from that '72 squad happened to be together like 5 years later and they just thought it would be an amusing gesture.  It hasn't happened since as far as I know, at least that is my recollection of the story.  If you have some evidence contrary to that recollection, I'd love to see it.

The whole "celebration" thing by the members of the '72 Dolphins has been completely blown out of proportion. It never was nor has it ever been a big deal to Dolphins fans to celebrate when the last team loses, it's a much bigger deal to fans of other teams that hear the media hype surrounding it and would like it to go away. It's taken on a life of it's own, it's not perpetuated by Dolphins fans. That's perfectly clear when the person who started the thread happens to be a Giants fan.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2011, 01:41:10 pm »

^ Your last sentence is bullshit.

Dave Gray updated the homepage note after months to read "Perfectville Population: 1". This was the 3rd-ever update since the TDMMC software was updated last year.

It is perpetuated by Dolphins fans, for Dolphins fans - and I'm just trying to figure out why. But clowns like EK Knight try to use big words and now the thread is derailed. Thanks.
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2011, 01:44:31 pm »

Yeah, I don't know of any Dolphins fans that celebrate when another team loses their first game of the year.  I wanted the Patsies to lose a couple years ago, but that was more about the Patsies losing, than the record coming to an end.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2011, 01:47:21 pm »

Mercury Morris and the other members of the Dolphins '72 squad have not opened a bottle of champaign when the last team lost for many years.  In fact I believe that only happened once and it was only because several of the players from that '72 squad happened to be together like 5 years later and they just thought it would be an amusing gesture.  It hasn't happened since as far as I know, at least that is my recollection of the story.  If you have some evidence contrary to that recollection, I'd love to see it.


Evidence contrary that it was a one time thing that happened in the late 70's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=actHMZfYvKo
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2011, 01:49:32 pm »

^^ not to mention it is one of the few things the Dolphin fan's have left. 
Have left for what?

I have many quite fond memories of watching Marino playing. I enjoyed watching Ricky Williams play.  Heck it was only 3 years ago that I celebrated beating the Jets on the last week of the season to win the AFC East.  Few things we have left to remember? Celebrate? Hardly.  As a Patriots fan you haven't celebrated anything since their last superbowl win? That's an extremely short sided view of sports.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2011, 01:50:30 pm »

^ It doesn't matter. I'm done with this thread. Clearly this is still a very sensitive topic for Dolphins fans - how dare I ask "why".
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