Why is the 1972 Season so important?

[Pappy13]

^ Your last sentence is bullshit.

So you're NOT a Giants fan or you didn't start a thread about the '72 Dolphins?

[Dave Gray]

To answer JTex's original question:

It's because this team prides itself on having a rich history, even if it predates us.  It's why Yankee fans are proud of Babe Ruth.  It's also something unique about our franchise and gives us relevance each year, even if they current team isn't good.  Some of the proudest moments from our franchise, though they didn't happen in 1972, are still related to that event.  The 1985 Bears game stands out in many of our minds as one of the best.  ...and it was because we stopped that streak.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Have left for what?

Records.  Most of Marino's/Shula records have fallen.  

[Pappy13]

Evidence contrary that it was a one time thing that happened in the late 70's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=actHMZfYvKo

A commercial is your evidence? I didn't watch the whole thing, at what point in that video do they pop the champaign?

[jtex316]

Thank You, Dave Gray, for an answer to the original question!

On second thought I am not done with this thread. Here are 3 comments about the following article:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-mikeb-miami-dolphins-1220-20111219,0,5789954.column

mzuraf1 at 11:07 AM December 20, 2011
Wrong Wrong Wrong Mike - NFL fans got tired of 72 Fins players celebrating another teams failure.  That's why ESPN did not have any of them on this time around, espeically Mercury.
Can anyone really say those toasts were to celebrate their accomplishment?  When that will never be diminished by another team doing the same?  It stands on its own and always will.
The toasts were to celebrate another teams failure.  No one likes that.

potestas227 at 10:26 AM December 20, 2011
Living and basking in yesterday's 40 year old glory isn't the most pathetic thing in the world, but it sure is close...

Scott The Pool Cleaner at 6:54 AM December 20, 2011
I know Berargloomanddoombo is just doing his due diligence in mentioning the 72 Fins.  But, nobody cares anymore.  Mercury Morris may be the exception.  Stop rehashing the glory years.  They are distant memories.  It's a different game now.  This era of Miami Dolphin football hasn't been significant in a decade plus.  You have to be my age (50), to recall seeing that team play.  What matters is the here and now.  A disastrous team that couldn't draft it's way out of a paper bag.  Couldn't negotiate a trade involving my Snickers for your Kit Kat bar.  I hope you wake up and smell the Today versus the yesteryear.

Pappy13:

A. Do you know what a sentence is?
B. Video = Evidence

[Pappy13]

Records.  Most of Marino's/Shula records have fallen.  

Records are made to be broken. The joy isn't in keeping the record, the joy is in creating the record in the first place and that can NEVER be taken away.

[Spider-Dan]

Spider Dan:

1. The word "undefeated" means that the team was not defeated. A tie isn't being defeated. Therefore, they went undefeated.

That's awesome.  Perhaps you should make it your personal mission to try to have the '29 Packers elevated to the same status of the '72 Dolphins.

Of course, you can't really say that they had a perfect season, because that kind of involves winning every game, which they didn't do.

Similarly, you could also argue that the '07 Patriots had an undefeated season (hell, a perfect season).  They literally did not lose a game during the season (only in the post-season, which is, by definition, after the season).

So why aren't people celebrating the miraculous triumph of the 2007 Patriots' perfect, undefeated season?  It is a question that is precisely as valid and intellectually honest as your question about the '29 Packers.

2. The 1998 homerun steroid chase was 100% entirely different and you know that.

Please do explain.

Your point seems to be that old records should be forgotten, and the home run record was pretty old, too.  So why didn't people stop caring about it?

[Pappy13]

A. Do you know what a sentence is?
B. Video = Evidence

A. I'm sorry, I think I added a sentence after you posted your post which confused me as to which sentense you were saying was BS.  My apologies.

B. Not when the video is a commercial that pokes fun of the whole situation and doesn't even show the players popping champaign.  I suppose the members of the '72 Dolphins approached Reebok and told them they wanted to make a commerical that would run during the superbowl about them celebrating and Reebok agreed.  Don't be ridiculous.

[jtex316]

Records are made to be broken. The joy isn't in keeping the record, the joy is in creating the record in the first place and that can NEVER be taken away.

Hidden in this mini-ramble is actually a gem of brilliant insight that I've been looking for.

And - it's what I think is a driving factor in the 1972 "pride". It's the first team to do so, ever. Like the 72-10 Chicago Bulls - the first team to 70 regular-season wins. If another team does it, it won't be as special as that first one.

But Pappy13 - you don't know the particulars of the Reebok commercial - but it's besides the point. They did do the commercial, regardless of who approached who.

[jtex316]

Spider-Dan:

A. I agree - I really can't say that the '29 Packers had a "perfect" season. In fact, going through this entire thread, I never did say that at all!

You're mixing the words "perfect" and "undefeated" unfairly - they are not the same (Ex: Perfect = X-0-0. Undefeated: X-0-Y).

B. I don't owe you an explanation - but in short - 1998 was about two players simultaneously chasing the homerun record. The 1972 lore is all about rooting for the last undefeated team to lose every single season. If you can prove that those two are isomorphic than you're a much better person than I am.

[Pappy13]

Hidden in this mini-ramble is actually a gem of brilliant insight that I've been looking for.

Not really sure what was rambling in my post, it seemed entirely obvious to me. It wasn't especially insightful either I didn't think, but if you found it so, fair enough. Still seems like a backhanded swipe at me rather than genuine praise.

But Pappy13 - you don't know the particulars of the Reebok commercial - but it's besides the point. They did do the commercial, regardless of who approached who.

Yes, it's completely the same if the members of the '72 Dolphins told Reebok they wanted to do a commercial of them celebrating being the only undefeated team and if Reebok approached the Dolphins players and paid them to be in a commercial.  Yep, that's EXACTLY the same. And I don't have to know the particulars, because like I have already said I read a long time ago that the whole champaign thing has been completely blown out of proportion and it's not something the players do. I believe it was Bob Griese who has talked about it several times before.

[Spider-Dan]

Fine.  So why aren't people celebrating the 2007 Patriots' undefeated season?  It is literally true, in exactly the same sense that the '29 Packers were literally undefeated.  Why weren't people asking Tom Brady how he felt about Aaron Rodgers joining him in the club of QBs with undefeated seasons?

Your explanation of 1998 is weak.  Why did people care about Peyton breaking Marino's 20+ year old TD record?  Why did people care about Barry Bonds breaking Hank Aaron's 30+ year old HR record?

[Pappy13]

http://www.snopes.com/sports/football/miami72.asp

[BigDaddyFin]

It's important because it's a singular accomplishment that is unique to one franchise which can never be taken away or in this case actually broken.  You can't have a more than perfect season.  Only a perfect season.

[EKnight]

How is this hypocritical? Do you even know what the word means?

I'm starting to see why MikeO really has it out for you. You're kind of annoying just to be annoying.

It's hypocritical because you seem to think it's SO insignificant with all the time that has passed and love to mention how it's a stupid record to hang your hat on, yet you couldn't wait to show that the Packers were going to break it. That's the very essence of hypocrisy. -EK