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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2011, 05:25:40 pm »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on December 28, 2011, 02:16:32 pm
They said that about Montana, Bledsoe, Favre....

They did?  I never heard that.

Montana and Favre were at the end of their careers and someone else took their job.  Same with Bledsoe, really.  This is not a case of someone waiting in the wings to take Brees' spot.
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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2011, 05:31:41 pm »
Quote from: Dave Gray on December 28, 2011, 05:25:40 pm
They did?  I never heard that.

Montana and Favre were at the end of their careers and someone else took their job.  Same with Bledsoe, really.  This is not a case of someone waiting in the wings to take Brees' spot.

I agree but I wouldn't say Bledsoe.  He still played for 5 more seasons after leaving the Patriots and probably could have played longer, he was just unwilling to be a back-up
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2011, 05:38:59 pm »
Quote from: Brian Fein on December 28, 2011, 03:23:52 pm
Trading away 2 entire drafts worth of picks for 1 player is not a risk, its insanity.  Why does everyone think this guy is such a sure thing? 

Not exactly two entire drafts but I wouldn't mind giving up a slew of picks to move up to get Luck.  With the way this team is built, there is some young talent for the foundation.  All you need is a good quarterback
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2011, 05:41:00 pm »
Quote from: masterfins on December 28, 2011, 05:22:01 pm
I would be alright with trading this years' draft picks for Luck, or RGIII, but not future draft picks, that's just crazy.  If you think the Fins are laughing stocks now, it would be unbearable if they traded multiple drafts for one player.  Look how it worked out for Ditka and the Saints, or what Minny did in its wholesale trade with Dallas.
Yes, there are well-publicized examples of teams that traded away their drafts and didn't win anything.  (Of course, there are also the examples like Eli Manning.)

However, for every example of a team that traded away a bunch of picks and busted, there are twenty examples of teams who kept all their picks and still sucked anyway.
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2011, 06:23:23 pm »
as well as 40 examples of teams that kept all their picks, drafted wisely, and won something with the players they gained.

I wonder how much of this discussion is founded upon the myth that Jeff Ireland is a terrible GM.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2011, 06:40:15 pm »
Quote from: Brian Fein on December 28, 2011, 02:15:50 pm
This is the worst idea ever.  This is going ALL IN on one player.  If he busts, which is really 50/50, you are sunk for the next 4-8 seasons.

If we don't have a QB we are sunk for the next 4-8 seasons anyway. Gotta take a risk in this league at some point. NOT taking a risk has gotten us no place. Time for Plan B!
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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2011, 07:00:40 pm »
Quote from: Brian Fein on December 28, 2011, 06:23:23 pm
as well as 40 examples of teams that kept all their picks, drafted wisely, and won something with the players they gained.

I wonder how much of this discussion is founded upon the myth that Jeff Ireland is a terrible GM.

That's not a myth.
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2011, 07:05:02 pm »
Quote from: Brian Fein on December 28, 2011, 06:23:23 pm
as well as 40 examples of teams that kept all their picks, drafted wisely, and won something with the players they gained.
Which would you say there are more of in the NFL: teams that draft wisely and win, or teams that draft poorly and lose?

Has this front office convinced you that they will select productive players with the picks we keep?
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2011, 10:07:18 pm »
What the hell. Keep Moore and Henne? F that, get me a real QB asap !!!
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2011, 10:16:34 pm »
This conversation is relative.  Some general observations from various threads:  Quarterback as been documented for 13 years now, so I won't touch that.  Apparently Daniel Thomas is a bust and Reggie bush still isn't a true number one RB, so we could go running back.  Apparently, Brandon Marshall is a worthless headache, so we need a WR to replace him.  Apparently we're trading Jake Long, so we could draft an offensive tackle to replace him..see also: Marc Colombo.  Pretty much every member of the defensive line is going to be a Free Agent, and with our owner spending money on things like a new night club in the stadium as opposed to talent on the football field, we probably will need to draft some defensive line help seeing as we can't "afford" to retain anyone.  Apparently, Koa Misi and Kevin Burnett suck so we could steer towards some linebacker help.  Apparently, Sean Smith, Reshad Jones, and Chris Clemons all suck so we, apparently, need some secondary help.


God this team is in shambles according to what I've read.
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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2011, 03:22:14 am »
Sounds like you're describing a 5-10 team.
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2011, 06:39:44 am »
exactly sounds like you are describing a 5 win team who's only wins have come against teams that are in worse shape than our fins.
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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2011, 03:42:15 pm »
So allow me to resurrect this original topic. 


"What if the Dolphins are unable to draft a QB"


So assuming that Luck, Griffin, and Jones are all off the board by the time Miami drafts, and/or the Dolphins were unable to trade up and are stuck in the 8 - 10 range, who would you like to see drafted?
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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2011, 04:01:37 pm »
^^ Ryan Tannehill QB A&M, but only if Landry Jones isn't there and the only way I think he's not there is if either him or RG3 don't enter the draft.

And then take Barkley next year in the first round. Keep picking QB's in the first round till you hit on one. It's bound to be a better strategy than keep on picking offensive lineman in the first round.
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« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2011, 04:24:00 pm »
Quote from: tubba marxxx on December 28, 2011, 05:31:41 pm
I agree but I wouldn't say Bledsoe.

Bledsoe lost his job to Brady.  Bledsoe got hurt and Brady lit the team on fire and won a Super Bowl never to look back.
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