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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2012, 11:54:48 pm »
Quote from: Landshark on January 20, 2012, 11:11:40 pm
At least this time around, it will cost the Dolphins only money.  Last time they went after another team's backup that was supposedly a "star in the making" it cost the Dolphins a second round pick.  That's right, a SECOND ROUND PICK for a THIRD STRING quarterback.



You got a point there.
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« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2012, 06:54:04 am »
The biggest reason I'm not sold on him as a head coach? He was selected by Ireland and Ross because he fits their idea and plan and we know how well they make decisions. I can't think of a hire that created less excitement.
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« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2012, 08:16:05 am »
Quote from: CF DolFan on January 21, 2012, 06:54:04 am
The biggest reason I'm not sold on him as a head coach? He was selected by Ireland and Ross because he fits their idea and plan and we know how well they make decisions. I can't think of a hire that created less excitement.

He wasn't selected by Ireland.  Word is, Ireland liked McCoy better.  Ross, on the other hand, obviously knows which are the coaches that can do some good with this team.  He went after Harbaugh last year and look what Harbaugh did in San Francisco.

For once, Ross showed he has some balls and went with his gut instinct rather than listen to this idiot of a GM.  This could very well be the beginning of the end for Ireland, especially if Ireland doesn't kow-tow to Philbin's needs for a top flight quarterback.
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« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2012, 08:54:06 am »
Quote from: Landshark on January 21, 2012, 08:16:05 am
He wasn't selected by Ireland.  Word is, Ireland liked McCoy better.  Ross, on the other hand, obviously knows which are the coaches that can do some good with this team.  He went after Harbaugh last year and look what Harbaugh did in San Francisco.

For once, Ross showed he has some balls and went with his gut instinct rather than listen to this idiot of a GM.  This could very well be the beginning of the end for Ireland, especially if Ireland doesn't kow-tow to Philbin's needs for a top flight quarterback.

Let me say, I AGREE WITH YOU!

But to play Devil's advocate for one second, many seem to think the ONLY reason Ross went after Harbaugh  is because Harbaugh is a "Michigan Man" much like Ross. Not because Ross saw some great coach, he just saw he went to Michigan. Just like in 2008 shortly after Ross bought 50% in the Fins on the 2nd day of the draft Ross went into the war room shortly before a Miami pick and got into a heated argument with James Saxon (RB Coach), Ireland, and Parcells  because he  (Ross) wanted Miami to take Mike Hart over Lex Hillard simply because Hart went to Michigan. And when Parcells asked Saxon to explain to Mr. Ross why they all like Hillard more, Saxon ran down a list of like 10 things about Lex that are better. Ross didn't like that, got heated and felt embarrassed, and called out Saxon and said Saxon was wrong in front of the entire coaching staff, scouts, and front office.  NOW....3 years later Lex is a starting fullback on a team. And Mike Hart is an assistant coach at Eastern Michigan.

Ross at times gets star struck with the maze and blue. So, while I agree with what you are saying this time because there is no Michigan tie in and it looks like he finally grew a set and made a decision on his own, I'm not so sure the Harbaugh chase was some great talent evaluation.
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« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2012, 09:29:19 am »
Everyone wanted Harbough so that made him important to Ross. Had everyone been high on Cher she would have been our coach.  I can't give Ross credit over Ireland when his two prerequisites are can you work under Ireland and will keep Bowles? That hardly seems like an owner who knows talent and is willing to go get them.
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« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2012, 10:15:27 am »
Quote from: el diablo on January 20, 2012, 09:32:05 pm
And spending money on another team's backup, isn't the way to go.

Sometimes it is the way to go...and sometimes it isn't.

If Miami had been able to grab the 49ers' backup when Joe Montana was under center, it would have landed them Steve Young.

If Miami had been able to grab the Patriots' backup when Drew Bledsoe was under center, it would have landed them Tom Brady.

I'm of the opinion that putting hard and fast "you should always do this...you should never do that" rules in place is a great way to potentially miss out on something good. Each situation/each player, should be looked at individually to gauge its/their merit.

Signing Matt Flynn? No draft picks required? Sure...I'll take the guy. As much as I appreciate how Moore turned things around this past season, I still see Flynn as a much better starting QB.

 
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« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2012, 10:19:21 am »
Quote from: Sunstroke on January 21, 2012, 10:15:27 am
Sometimes it is the way to go...and sometimes it isn't.

If Miami had been able to grab the 49ers' backup when Joe Montana was under center, it would have landed them Steve Young.

If Miami had been able to grab the Patriots' backup when Drew Bledsoe was under center, it would have landed them Tom Brady.


You can add in...
Favre:Rodgers
Rivers:Brees
Brady:Cassel (okay not quite as good as the other four)
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« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2012, 10:27:10 am »
Quote from: Sunstroke on January 21, 2012, 10:15:27 am


Signing Matt Flynn? No draft picks required? Sure...I'll take the guy. As much as I appreciate how Moore turned things around this past season, I still see Flynn as a much better starting QB.



Not to mention this would be a rare case of a QB coming to a new team but having his offensive coordinator in place with him. Guys like AJ Feely, Jay Fiedler, Matt Cassell, Kevin Kolb...etc guys who get big money to go from backup to starter  for a new team aren't going to a team with the same exact offense in place they have played in since day 1. With the same terminology with the same coach in place with the new team. That's rare!

The ONLY guy that comes to mind who did that was Matt Hasselbeck. When Holmgren went to Seattle and he brought Hasselbeck with him. That is the only time I think it has happened and that was over a decade ago, and oh yeah it worked!

I think Miami will make a push for Flynn. OR, they make Mike Sherman the offensive coordinator if he doesn't get the Tampa Job and Miami could draft Ryan Tannehill (Sherman's QB from Tex AM). I think right now those seem like the top 2 options for Miami with trading up for RG III being option #3.
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« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2012, 10:27:40 am »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on January 21, 2012, 10:19:21 am
You can add in...
Favre:Rodgers
Rivers:Brees
Brady:Cassel (okay not quite as good as the other four)



Vick:Schaub in Atlanta
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« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2012, 12:52:19 pm »
I don't like this hire, but I'm going to support it.  I see a plan in place with keeping the defense intact, upgrading the o-line in the first round, getting a QB in the second or third round and bringing in Flynn.  I'm down with that.
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« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2012, 01:10:11 pm »
Unless a major trade happens in the draft for the Dolphins, it looks like Matt Flynn is the best case scenario.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.
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« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2012, 01:27:13 pm »
I'm not happy either. Its just amazing on how they set out for a big name with experience. To settling for a guy with no NFL head coaching experience. Not only that. They plan on implementing The Vaunted West Coast Offense with a guy who didn't call the plays. I hope it works. Just don't expect miracles. That offense takes time to learn and personnel they don't have to run it.
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« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2012, 03:31:42 pm »
Brandon Marshall should probably do very well in the offense.  That's a positive. 
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« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2012, 03:57:44 pm »
Quote from: mecadonzilla on January 21, 2012, 03:31:42 pm
Brandon Marshall should probably do very well in the offense.  That's a positive. 

Same offense Brandon played in with the Broncos with Shanahan. This offense is also custom made for Reggie Bush. Miami just needs a QB to run it
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« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2012, 04:52:56 pm »
The Philbin press conference was great.

-Ross takes a shot at Jeff Fisher less than 2 min

-Ross started using Al Davis catch phrases in his opening statement

-Ireland says Philbin can hire any assistant he wants and no coach will be forced on him (ie a shot at McCoy for saying they were forcing Todd Bowles on he and Philbin)

Philbin came off well though. Very organized and comes off as someone who is in control.
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