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Doc-phin
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« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2012, 05:32:00 pm »

The Philbin press conference was great.

-Ross takes a shot at Jeff Fisher less than 2 min

-Ross started using Al Davis catch phrases in his opening statement

-Ireland says Philbin can hire any assistant he wants and no coach will be forced on him (ie a shot at McCoy for saying they were forcing Todd Bowles on he and Philbin)

Philbin came off well though. Very organized and comes off as someone who is in control.

Any chance you have a website to watch it?  I tried several spots and couldn't find it.  I think it was live on miamidolphins.com but I missed it.
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« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2012, 07:04:30 pm »

Any chance you have a website to watch it?  I tried several spots and couldn't find it.  I think it was live on miamidolphins.com but I missed it.

Here is the Philbin part. This doesn't give the opening comments by Ross and Ireland nor the questions to Ross and Ireland after Philbin took questions. THAT was the best part. But for the Philbin part here is the link.

http://thefinsiders.com/video?bcpid=359371433001&bckey=AQ~~,AAAAPLps31k~,TJzr-TEF9ZCBmr465_RhOYx3PAlYRdu_&bclid=260803762001&bctid=1406706604001
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« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2012, 07:25:38 pm »

Well, I hope he hires younger, more enthusiastic assistants to drive that message of aggressiveness home. Because if they are carbon copies of him, it won't happen.
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« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2012, 08:34:27 pm »

Well, I hope he hires younger, more enthusiastic assistants to drive that message of aggressiveness home. Because if they are carbon copies of him, it won't happen.

You realize he is 2 weeks removed from his 21 year old son dying. Did you expect him to be giggles and laughing up there? Show a little respect!
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« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2012, 08:55:06 pm »

I'm not really against his hiring or anything, I don't really know the guy, but that's what worries me. I hope he does a good job, but right now I have zero confidence he'll be any better than Sparano was because he just doesn't have any experience. I have nothing to base my expectations off of. At least with Fisher and a lot of the guys that Miami decided not to interview they had some experience and something to base your judgement of them on. Nobody was a guarantee, but their were guys with a lot better resume's out there than Joe Philbin. Just because the Dolphins decided to only go after Fisher and then a bunch of guys with zero head coaching experience doesn't mean that I have to like their choices. Philbin has never been a head coach at any level, at least Sparano had been a head coach before, just not in the NFL.

So MikeO, why don't you tell us why you like this hire? What's he bring to the table that has impressed you?
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« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2012, 09:10:34 pm »

You realize he is 2 weeks removed from his 21 year old son dying. Did you expect him to be giggles and laughing up there? Show a little respect!

No, I didn't expect him to be "all smiles".  I expected to see why and how he got the job. I wasn't impressed. I heard someone who expressed his professional accolades above his family's support. I heard the Dynamic Duo take digs at other people. And you want to call me out for lack of respect? Please.
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« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2012, 09:55:29 pm »

I'm not really against his hiring or anything, I don't really know the guy, but that's what worries me. I hope he does a good job, but right now I have zero confidence he'll be any better than Sparano was because he just doesn't have any experience. I have nothing to base my expectations off of. At least with Fisher and a lot of the guys that Miami decided not to interview they had some experience and something to base your judgement of them on. Nobody was a guarantee, but their were guys with a lot better resume's out there than Joe Philbin. Just because the Dolphins decided to only go after Fisher and then a bunch of guys with zero head coaching experience doesn't mean that I have to like their choices. Philbin has never been a head coach at any level, at least Sparano had been a head coach before, just not in the NFL.

So MikeO, why don't you tell us why you like this hire? What's he bring to the table that has impressed you?

I think after Fisher he was the best choice. Long time assistant with the most experience out of the rest of the candidates (minus maybe Zimmer but Zimmer has personality issues it seems and won't get hired anywhere as of now). And I'm not going to rip the guy before he coaches a game. Give him a chance. 

I like how he has from reports helped Aaron Rodgers and his career. Rodgers has said Philbin helped him with his release point and changed him as a QB and made him the player he is today. In a QB driven league that is important. I like how he helped gameplan the Packers offense that has been one of the best if not the best in recent years. Yes, McCarthy called the plays but Philbin as doing the leg work while McCarthy was doing other head coach stuff (media, working with defense, special teams...etc). If the GB offense was average or bad, maybe a red flag. The Packers offense has been great a large part because of Philbin's work turning Rodgers around and with his game planning. And I don't see too many guys with "better" resumes I gotta be honest. Zimmer has a good resume but its probably on par with Philbins not all that different really. And they wanted an offensive coach, so. Smart move there.

You people call me the negative one, but some of you are ripping the guy before he has hired an assistant or coached a game. I mean seriously. And one guy is upset he didn't show enough emotion today at a press conference...I mean a press conference and its  2 weeks after his son died. I mean talk about classless and going above and beyond reasons to rip the guy. It's silly. I mean it's just foolish to say such a thing.

Philbin may be great or he may suck. I don't know, but I'm not gonna rip the guy before he has done one thing yet in Miami. When he does something bad or stupid I will be the first to shout it from the roof-tops don't worry. But to rip the guy now....I mean come on!
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« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2012, 09:59:20 pm »

No, I didn't expect him to be "all smiles".  I expected to see why and how he got the job. I wasn't impressed. I heard someone who expressed his professional accolades above his family's support.

He's not there to write a love letter to his family. He thanked his family and all. He told the touching story of how his one son told him to take the job and go for it because Michael would have wanted that. This wasn't "Joe Philbin this is you're life"...he was there to talk about the JOB he got hired to do!  Of course he will open up with the football aspect first. So you are upset he didn't do the family thing at the start of his speech but saved it to the end? Are you serious? That is insane!

You are entitled to hate the man and think he sucks, but the reasons you have for it are extreme, fringe element, and odd to say the least.
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« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2012, 10:36:15 pm »

"It's only money?"  Money that can cripple you for years, you mean.  Right?  Because that is money you CAN'T spend on other areas if it doesn't work.
A good QB will always cost you a lot of money, so that is neither here nor there; you should expect to have a certain % of your cap tied up at the QB position.  But if Flynn doesn't pan out, then Miami can simply cut him.  They will take a cap hit in the year that they cut him, and that's the end of it.

Having one cap-strapped year if/when they cut Flynn is preferable to losing out on several years of potential (cheap!) production from a promising rookie.
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« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2012, 11:50:12 pm »

He's not there to write a love letter to his family. He thanked his family and all. He told the touching story of how his one son told him to take the job and go for it because Michael would have wanted that. This wasn't "Joe Philbin this is you're life"...he was there to talk about the JOB he got hired to do!  Of course he will open up with the football aspect first. So you are upset he didn't do the family thing at the start of his speech but saved it to the end? Are you serious? That is insane!

You are entitled to hate the man and think he sucks, but the reasons you have for it are extreme, fringe element, and odd to say the least.

First of all, I never said that I hate the man. Nor did I ever say that he sucks. Let me be clear. It is tragic what happened to his family. I do not wish that on anybody. My heart goes out to him & his family.
That being said, I was commenting on what he said. And what the owner & GM said.
No one said he had to lead off with an hour describing his love of family. Starting the way he did, shows to me that the Job was more important. Maybe I'm wrong in that. But that's how it comes off.  I never got "on" him for his "lack of emotion" in describing his goals for the team. What he said sounded contrived. Who doesn't want quality, fundamentally sound people who want to win?

At the same time, Ross & Ireland said from the beginning that they wanted someone with experience. Then they hire a guy that has NO head coaching experience. It has nothing to do with his assistant coaching resume'. It has everything to do with his inside track to land the QB he coached. It also has to deal with his willingness to let them decide who he hires for assistants. MC Coy didn't get the job because he wouldn't play ball. That story got out. So Ireland makes it a point to say Philbin will be able to hire who he wants. Nobody comes out and says that. That's usually a given.

If Flynn doesn't sign with Miami, this will blow up. Then, what?
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« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2012, 03:39:51 am »

Dude kind of looks like Larry Coker hope he is better coach.
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« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2012, 07:53:37 am »

“Calm, cerebral, humble and a skilled offensive mind. His style will resonate with players. Dolphins fans have reason to smile.”  ESPN analyst and former Packers executive Andrew Brandt, on Twitter

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/22/2601484/miami-dolphins-executives-players.html#storylink=cpy
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« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2012, 09:00:00 am »

also on WQAM yesterday after the press conference they were talking to a bunch of people and such and they shot down one report that is totally false. This notion Philbin didn't call plays in GB is not totally true. Ross called Mike McCarthy last week to get insight on Philbin. McCarthy told him Joe Philbin did call the offensive plays. Just that McCarthy pulled rank on him at times and took over play calling on what he felt were "critical" plays or "important" plays in games. Which is not un-common for an NFL head coach to do. Pull rank and take over playcalling at times. But Philbin did call plays for every game in GB under McCarthy. He might have not called every single play in the game, but he was calling plays.

Also on his resume; Philbin's resume is better on paper going into this head coaching job than Sean Payton's was when he got the Saints job. And most everyone considers Payton a good head coach.
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« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2012, 02:24:23 pm »

And most everyone considers Payton a good head coach.

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« Reply #59 on: January 22, 2012, 06:29:19 pm »

most? 

Yeah most. His in game decisions are considered terrible by a lot of people. He risks too much and doesn't play "smart" football at times. Over aggressive by some and careless. I like the guy and think he is a good coach, but I have heard many analysts and such tear him apart.
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