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« on: January 26, 2012, 02:34:55 pm »

Because there are a lot of reports putting Flynn in Miami due to our new head coach and our need for a QB. I have no problem with the team giving a QB a huge contract if he is worth it, but the damage done to the franchise to give this kid $100 Million and have him be like Matt Cassel would be huge.
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 02:44:14 pm »

Why would the Dolphins give him that much?

Matt Cassel was 11-5 (technically 11-4, Brady was the starting QB for the first of those wins) and he got 6 years, $63 million.

Flynn has two starts and is 1-1.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 03:22:23 pm »

I agree he isn't worth that much based on 2 games, although my figure was just a guess on the high end. However, every time I go on Rotoworld or even ESPN they mention how he will get a huge contract. I am fine with bringing the kid in, but not if it kills any cap space we have for the next few years.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 03:46:48 pm »

I agree he isn't worth that much based on 2 games, although my figure was just a guess on the high end. However, every time I go on Rotoworld or even ESPN they mention how he will get a huge contract. I am fine with bringing the kid in, but not if it kills any cap space we have for the next few years.

I think he is going to get a decent contract.  And he should.  Unlike Andrew Luck, RGIII and all the other potential NFL quarterbacks that will be in the draft, it is a known fact he can play at the NFL level, the rest it is mere speculation if they can or can't. I just think it will be slightly less than Cassel, but somewhere in that ballpark.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 03:56:10 pm »

The figure I keeo hearing is around $50 million. I don;t know why the Flynn talk keeps making the rounds though, as everything that is being reported has him as the third option, behind Manning and RGIII. -EK
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 04:00:11 pm »

Any smart team would make him earn it.  I wouldn't have  a problem giving him a Matt Cassel type deal but his first year salary has to be modest.  Just me playing GM
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2012, 04:27:37 pm »

I agree he isn't worth that much based on 2 games, although my figure was just a guess on the high end. However, every time I go on Rotoworld or even ESPN they mention how he will get a huge contract. I am fine with bringing the kid in, but not if it kills any cap space we have for the next few years.

I could not agree with you more.  If he was a proven starter, then Cassel money could be justified.  However, its not my checkbook that's about to broken.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2012, 04:31:44 pm »

Matt Schaub
Matt Cassell
Kevin Kolb

QB's who were backups and got signed for big pay days.  I'm sure there were others.

You could add Steve Young and Brett Favre to the list, I guess.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2012, 04:58:25 pm »

The best thing about paying Matt Flynn is that Philbin is the only coach qualified to make that move.  What I mean by that is that if Philbin thinks he is worth the money, I would trust him on it.

The only game I have seen him play in was the game against the Lions.  He had record numbers but in my opinion it had everything to do with his receivers and horrible Lions defense.  The only thing I thought he did well was get rid of the ball on time.  If he has good work ethic and Philbin thinks he can be a leader, then I would say he is worth a shot.  Otherwise, I didn't see anything that I felt would translate particularly well to another team.

I would be equally fine with drafting someone to wait a year behind Moore.  I think they learned a good bit with Henne and won't make the same mistake twice.  Trading up will cost us too much from what I can see, especially now that we have a rookie wage scale.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2012, 05:46:25 pm »

Because there are a lot of reports putting Flynn in Miami due to our new head coach and our need for a QB. I have no problem with the team giving a QB a huge contract if he is worth it, but the damage done to the franchise to give this kid $100 Million and have him be like Matt Cassel would be huge.

Nobody is giving Matt Flynn $100 million. That's insane. Probably $65 mill with around $20-22 guaranteed.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2012, 06:15:40 pm »

I'm still not sold on Flynn going to Miami AT ALL. From Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald: "Is it Manning at age 36? Or Flynn who is largely unproven? A [Dolphins] team source e-mailed me this afternoon that the priority is Manning. This coincides with news out of Mobile, Ala., where the Senior Bowl is going to be played Saturday. A league source there tells The Herald's Barry Jackson that the Dolphins have shown no interest in Flynn as of yet—not even informal interest. Now, teams are not allowed to show formal interest in soon-to-be free agents at this time. But at those Senior Bowl practices, where agents and team personnel departments mingle on the sideline, it's common for preliminary signs of future interest to be displayed. In fact, it's almost expected." -EK
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2012, 06:28:07 pm »

I'm still not sold on Flynn going to Miami AT ALL. From Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald: "Is it Manning at age 36? Or Flynn who is largely unproven? A [Dolphins] team source e-mailed me this afternoon that the priority is Manning. This coincides with news out of Mobile, Ala., where the Senior Bowl is going to be played Saturday. A league source there tells The Herald's Barry Jackson that the Dolphins have shown no interest in Flynn as of yet—not even informal interest. Now, teams are not allowed to show formal interest in soon-to-be free agents at this time. But at those Senior Bowl practices, where agents and team personnel departments mingle on the sideline, it's common for preliminary signs of future interest to be displayed. In fact, it's almost expected." -EK


yeah because teams, coaches, and GM's have never lied before to throw people off the beaten path of their "real" plans!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 11:54:35 pm »

I'm just gonna mention this,yeah apples to oranges,wrong sport same idea in a sense to me...It's sort of the way I feel about Matt Flynn (sorry if it comes off as a hi jack,Mods can delete it,and the board arguers can tear it apart)

Cubs hired Dale Sveum to be the manager this off season,he was the Brewers hitting coach.Fans,and media,kept speculating,the Cubs have some inside track,should be the front runners,the favorites to sign Prince Fielder the free agent 1st baseman from the Brewers (and the Cubs have a need at 1st base).The front office had other ideas,They didn't want to spend a bunch of money,long term contract on him.It seemed like a whole lot of shit being thrown against the wall about the Cubs signing Prince Fielder,till they bring him in and talk to him,and aleast offer him a contract...It's just a whole bunch of shit being thrown on the wall...

Just the way I see it....

(For the record, I'm holy mother Effin, effin jumping up and down,just banged a super model happy the Cubs didn't sign Prince)

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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 03:54:36 am »

Well, the person that would know if Flynn is the real deal is Philbin!   So if Flynn is legit... I'd expect the Phins to make a play for him.  That gives us a chance to pick up some other pieces in the draft if he is in fact the real deal!
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 05:59:32 am »

yeah because teams, coaches, and GM's have never lied before to throw people off the beaten path of their "real" plans!  Roll Eyes

And because guys chatting on the internet with no inside knowledge whatsoever have a better idea?  Roll Eyes  When all the reports said Flynn was coming, and you put it out there, they were right. Now other reports are saying something else, but-shocker- since Mike didn't say them, they are wrong? -EK
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