Is Matt Flynn the Real Deal?

[MikeO]

And because guys chatting on the internet with no inside knowledge whatsoever have a better idea?    When all the reports said Flynn was coming, and you put it out there, they were right. Now other reports are saying something else, but-shocker- since Mike didn't say them, they are wrong? -EK

I didn't say anyone was right or wrong. I am just saying just because it is out there doesn't make it true. This is the season in the NFL where teams float FALSE info to get others off what they really want to do. Happens before the draft and leading into the draft. Happens leading into free agency.

[el diablo]

I'm just gonna mention this,yeah apples to oranges,wrong sport same idea in a sense to me...It's sort of the way I feel about Matt Flynn (sorry if it comes off as a hi jack,Mods can delete it,and the board arguers can tear it apart)

Cubs hired Dale Sveum to be the manager this off season,he was the Brewers hitting coach.Fans,and media,kept speculating,the Cubs have some inside track,should be the front runners,the favorites to sign Prince Fielder the free agent 1st baseman from the Brewers (and the Cubs have a need at 1st base).The front office had other ideas,They didn't want to spend a bunch of money,long term contract on him.It seemed like a whole lot of shit being thrown against the wall about the Cubs signing Prince Fielder,till they bring him in and talk to him,and aleast offer him a contract...It's just a whole bunch of shit being thrown on the wall...

Just the way I see it....

(For the record, I'm holy mother Effin, effin jumping up and down,just banged a super model happy the Cubs didn't sign Prince)

I can see you're point. If I am to assume Pujols=Manning, and Fielder=Flynn. The Cubs hire the Brewers hitting coach. Which would be like the Dolphins hiring the Packers QB coach. If this plays out, is it safe to assume that the Dolphins would be looking to draft a QB rather than sign a free agent? Flynn did very well with GB's system & players. The question is, does Philbin believe Flynn would work with Miami's players?

[MikeO]

NFL.com has a story about how Brandon Marshall has already reached out to Matt Flynn and is trying to recruit him to come to Miami.

He pretty much threw Matt Moore and his WR coaches he has had the past 6 years under the bus in the interview but he said he did reach out to Flynn. And he mentioned he has heard only great things about Philbin.  Brandon said it isn't tampering because its just players talking to players. When the NFL was contacted they said the same, he broke no rules.

[tubba marxxx]

NFL.com has a story about how Brandon Marshall has already reached out to Matt Flynn and is trying to recruit him to come to Miami.

He pretty much threw Matt Moore and his WR coaches he has had the past 6 years under the bus in the interview but he said he did reach out to Flynn. And he mentioned he has heard only great things about Philbin.  Brandon said it isn't tampering because its just players talking to players. When the NFL was contacted they said the same, he broke no rules.

http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story/09000d5d826630ae/article/dolphins-marshall-talks-to-flynn-about-teaming-up-in-miami


Read the interview, I see no one "throwing anyone under the bus"  just my $0.02..but hey, judge for yourself guys

[MikeO]

http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story/09000d5d826630ae/article/dolphins-marshall-talks-to-flynn-about-teaming-up-in-miami


Read the interview, I see no one "throwing anyone under the bus"  just my $0.02..but hey, judge for yourself guys

He said Moore had a good year but they need to bring someone in to make the team better. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of your QB!
 
Then he said the past 6 years he has had a different WR coach and none of them he had chemistry with and could take him to the next level. Once again, not a quote any of those WR coaches will be happy about. I doubt they are using Brandon has a reference on their resumes for their next jobs with quotes like that.

I'm not even knocking Brandon for what he is saying, it's not that big a deal. So this isn't some MikeO going after Marshall again.  But lets call it what  it is. He threw some people under the bus!

[fyo]

^ I agree with you about the comments on Moore (although throwing him under the bus is a bit strong), but I'm not reading the WR coach thing like you. He seems to be complaining that he's had a new coach every single year for 6 years. That he hasn't been able to develop any chemistry with them is hardly surprising. Bringing in a coach he's worked with before, while still a 7th WR coach in as many years, would appear to be a good way to solve the problem.

[MikeO]

^ I agree with you about the comments on Moore (although throwing him under the bus is a bit strong), but I'm not reading the WR coach thing like you. He seems to be complaining that he's had a new coach every single year for 6 years. That he hasn't been able to develop any chemistry with them is hardly surprising. Bringing in a coach he's worked with before, while still a 7th WR coach in as many years, would appear to be a good way to solve the problem.

Calling it a back-handed compliment better than throwing it under the bus? Maybe, not the point I was trying to drive home anyway. Like I said I really have no problem with what Marshall said.

Bottom line is Marshall has reached out to Flynn which is the real story.

[tubba marxxx]

^ I agree with you about the comments on Moore (although throwing him under the bus is a bit strong), but I'm not reading the WR coach thing like you. He seems to be complaining that he's had a new coach every single year for 6 years. That he hasn't been able to develop any chemistry with them is hardly surprising. Bringing in a coach he's worked with before, while still a 7th WR coach in as many years, would appear to be a good way to solve the problem.

It's kinda like the fuss they made about Alex Smith having a different OC every season he was in SF.  It's very tiring to completely forget everything you learned the previous season to learn a whole new offense time and time again.  Saying he "hasn't had a chance to establish chemistry" is putting it very mildly and frankly, pretty obvious.

[el diablo]

Imagine if your job changed management every 6 months. That's not easy on anybody. That's why I've been pushing for Moore so much. The guy comes into a new system with no offseason. Yes, he struggled at first. But, he showed improvement. Now there's a new system. Once again. If Flynn doesn't sign, whoever the QB may be is going to struggle. Whatever they decide to, they just need to stick with something.

[EKnight]

Marshall also "reached out" to Ochocinco and Mike Sims-Walker last year, and neither ended up in Miami. This is a non-story. The owner of the team wants Manning, with Flynn as a distant third behind RGIII. No matter how much you keep wanting "Flynn to Miami" to be a story, it's nothing more than speculation that's been denied and shot down by everyone but you, apparently. -EK

[MikeO]

Marshall also "reached out" to Ochocinco and Mike Sims-Walker last year, and neither ended up in Miami. This is a non-story. The owner of the team wants Manning, with Flynn as a distant third behind RGIII. No matter how much you keep wanting "Flynn to Miami" to be a story, it's nothing more than speculation that's been denied and shot down by everyone but you, apparently. -EK

And Manning to Miami is speculation, RGIII to Miami is speculation, Flynn to Miami is speculation. That's what message boards are for, to talk about news, rumors, and speculation until things happen and games are played!

What's your deal?! Take a chill pill!

[EKnight]

Miami's desire for Manning is not speculation. The owner has come out and flat said it's his number one off-season priority. NO ONE is saying they want Flynn anymore but you. -EK

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Miami's desire for Manning is not speculation. The owner has come out and flat said it's his number one off-season priority. NO ONE is saying they want Flynn anymore but you. -EK

Really?  He did?  Then say good bye to a draft pick.

Manning is under contract.  And if Ross did what you claim it is tampering. 

But I think your draft picks are safe and the owner did not flat out say that.   

[MikeO]

Miami's desire for Manning is not speculation. The owner has come out and flat said it's his number one off-season priority. NO ONE is saying they want Flynn anymore but you. -EK

The owner has NOT said that because that would be tampering since Manning is under contract to another team and Miami would lose a draft pick. Anything you have heard about Ross wanting Manning is PURE speculation. Provide a Link the quote where Stephen Ross has said he wants Manning. We will wait. (save your time it doesn't exist)  

And it sounds like Brandon Marshall wants Flynn. There ARE actual quotes from Brandon saying so on NFL.com!!  Not to mention Aaron Rodgers on his radio show the other day said he feels that its a strong possibility of Flynn to Miami. Considering Aaron knows both Flynn and Philbin, maybe it holds some water. maybe it doesn't though.

Point is....the whole thing is speculation, I don't know why you are upset. It's silly.

[el diablo]

I gotta agree with Mike on this one. Ross has only  stated that he wants a "franchise QB". He's never said who he wants that person to be. Personally I believe Peyton is too expensive given the risk involved. I'm not sold on Flynn. I believe Moore has the potential. But I am open to drafting one for future development.

Feel free to rip that up, but that's how I feel.