Packers re-sign TE Finley

[Landshark]

Just saw it on the news ticker.  There goes a possible tight end upgrade for the Dolphins.  What concerns me more is if they tag Flynn.

[tubba marxxx]

^^ which will probably happen.  C'mon Peyton!!!!!!!!

[Landshark]

^^ which will probably happen.  C'mon Peyton!!!!!!!!

Possible, but not likely.  Are they really gonna be in a position to have to pay their backup QB $40 million?

[MikeO]

Possible, but not likely.  Are they really gonna be in a position to have to pay their backup QB $40 million?

It would only be one year $14.4 mill they would have to pay him.  They are going to tag Flynn and trade him from all the reports out of Wisconsin. Probably for a 2nd  or 3rd round pick unless Cleveland offers up their lower first round pick to make sure they get him or if a bidding war heats up

Helps GB in two ways. 1) they can control where Flynn goes and keep him away from a rival NFC team if they want to  2) They get something in return for him.

[tubba marxxx]

It would only be one year $14.4 mill they would have to pay him.  They are going to tag Flynn and trade him from all the reports out of Wisconsin. Probably for a 2nd  or 3rd round pick unless Cleveland offers up their lower first round pick to make sure they get him or if a bidding war heats up

Helps GB in two ways. 1) they can control where Flynn goes and keep him away from a rival NFC team if they want to  2) They get something in return for him.

it would suck for them to pay Flynn double what Rodgers makes for that one year

[MikeO]

it would suck for them to pay Flynn double what Rodgers makes for that one year

They won't tag him unless they have a deal in place. They aren't stupid up in GB. If they tag him, a trade has already been worked out and done.

[el diablo]

If any team dumb enough to make that trade, then more power to them.

[MikeO]

as always there are conflicting reports. Mort of ESPN is saying they won't franchise him. Cause they will get a Comp pick for him anyway once he leaves. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is saying they will franchise him.

So we will see

[Landshark]

as always there are conflicting reports. Mort of ESPN is saying they won't franchise him. Cause they will get a Comp pick for him anyway once he leaves. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel is saying they will franchise him.

So we will see

Again, I seriously doubt it.  I agree with tubba. They're not going to risk being on the hook for double Rodgers salary. 

[MikeO]

Again, I seriously doubt it.  I agree with tubba. They're not going to risk being on the hook for double Rodgers salary. 

You are missing the point, they won't tag him unless a deal is already in place. There is no risk!

GB can work out a deal with another team behind closed doors, then "officially" tag him after that deal has been agreed upon, once March 13th comes  then trade him. No risk involved!!  A 0% chance they get stuck with him that way. That is what GB is doing.

[el diablo]

Again, why would anybody trade for a free agent. The franchise tag would pay him the avg of the top 5 QB's. Granted it would be lower than in years past. Then, on top of that give up assets. That is a stupid trade. If you're going to make a trade you might as well with St. Louis for the 2nd pick in the draft. That's why there wouldn't be a trade in place if Flynn gets the franchise tag.

[MikeO]

Again, why would anybody trade for a free agent. The franchise tag would pay him the avg of the top 5 QB's. Granted it would be lower than in years past. Then, on top of that give up assets. That is a stupid trade. If you're going to make a trade you might as well with St. Louis for the 2nd pick in the draft. That's why there wouldn't be a trade in place if Flynn gets the franchise tag.

You clearly don't understand how the franchise tag works with your above post. The reason you trade for him is because somebody else might trade for him and he will NEVER be a free agent!!!

GB can work out a trade in advance and THEN  franchise tag him anytime before the deadline and deal him. They did it with Corey Williams to the Browns for a 2nd rounder a few years back. They have history of doing this!

Once a team trades for Flynn you work out a long-term deal and don't pay him like a Top 5 QB!! That's the entire point! Flynn won't get a Top 5 QB pay on the open market he knows this, his value is at its peak right now. Hence, get a long-term deal and security NOW at its peak. Flynn doesn't want one big pay-day for 1 year, he wants a long-term deal!

Trade for RGIII=3 first round picks or so
Trade for Flynn=A 2nd or 3rd round pick

Which one is the more realistic trade!!!

[el diablo]

Clearly you don't understand the concept of a trade. Obviously GB would want something for him. But no GM would trade for an unrestricted free agent back up QB. If Flynn was a proven starter, your argument might hold water. This year it doesn't. There's the possibility of Manning, RG III in the 1st round, a number of QB's in other rounds, and the QB's comming out next year. Nobody would pull that trigger. Not if they wanted to keep a job.

[MikeO]

Clearly you don't understand the concept of a trade. Obviously GB would want something for him. But no GM would trade for an unrestricted free agent back up QB. If Flynn was a proven starter, your argument might hold water. This year it doesn't. There's the possibility of Manning, RG III in the 1st round, a number of QB's in other rounds, and the QB's comming out next year. Nobody would pull that trigger. Not if they wanted to keep a job.

You are oblivious to the entire point and concept of this. It's amazing. Of course GB wants something for him, why do you think they would consider tagging him?!  Not to keep him! They have till March 5th to make a decision on tagging him. If a team steps up and offers them a 2nd or 3rd round pick prior to March 5th, then they tag him (since they have the cap space or can by making 2 roster moves) and trade him March 13th at 4pm when the league year starts. If they can't work out a trade with any team before March 5th, guess what, they don't tag him. It's that simple! And you can't grasp this concept?

Also, if they tag him he isn't an unrestricted free agent. That's the entire point! That's why a team who might have the hots for Flynn would like to remove all risk of not getting him! Why is that so difficult to grasp/! Why did KC trade for Matt Cassel? Because they wanted him! That's why! They called New England and said we have to have this guy, tag him and we will trade for him. So no other team could swoop in and blow Cassell away with a huge offer leaving KC out in the cold.  If a team wants Flynn bad enough, they will trade a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him  AND block another team from having the opportunity to even talk to him and get him! This is a thing that has been done a ton of times in the NFL! Tag a guy then trade him. It's not new!

And GB did this a few years back with Corey Williams, they have a history of doing this. To think they wouldn't consider this notion is foolish beyond belief.

[el diablo]

What is foolish beyond belief is someone with a one track mind. Yes, Green Bay has a history of this. You stated the same example twice. Lets go back to 2009. Matt Cassel was up against Rex Grossman, J.P. Losman, Byron Leftwich, & Kyle Boler. None of them are named  Peyton Manning. Matt Stafford was the number one draft prospect. Number two was Mark Sanchez. Sanchez was not projected to go in the top 5. Which means, there would be other options this year without having to make that trade. If I were going to make a trade, it would be for the number two pick this year. Outside of Cassel in 2009, there was no option if you wanted a quarterback. This year there are options. That's why it would be a foolish trade.