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« on: March 07, 2012, 01:02:44 pm »
I like the idea of getting Manning because I think it makes us immediately relevant.  It will take our team away from being an embarrassment and it will shift the story to the players on the field.  There will be excitement around the franchise again.

I don't like the idea of getting Manning because I don't think he'll ever lead a team to the Super Bowl again.  I think that it's unlikely we'll get the same caliber of play from him that we saw in Indy.  This is for two reasons: 1) he's older and has been hurt and 2) we're not the Colts.  It's probably not a smart decision in terms of winning long-term.
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2012, 01:09:20 pm »
I don't think this has anything to do with a long-term goal, as what, he has 3 or 4 years left if he stays healthy? I think we would be in a win now mode and maybe you hope he trains the new QB who would replace him.

I'm just wondering what type of system would we be running and who would be calling the plays. Does Peyton act like the guy from the Colts or is the OC actually going to do his job?
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2012, 01:12:21 pm »
He is getting old and he is one hit from playing his last down.  I see any team who signs him wasting a lot of money with absolutely nothing to show for it.  Therefore my first choice is he signs with the Jets.  My second choice would be the Dolphins or the Bills. 
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2012, 01:22:12 pm »
u don't have to have a record breaking season, and be the best qb for 18 or 19 games. just have to get to the tournament and be the hottest qb in 3 or 4 games.

get in the playoffs, with 4 games to win and you have peyton throwing the football for you? yeah, i'll take that...
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2012, 01:40:21 pm »
Quote from: dolfan13 on March 07, 2012, 01:22:12 pm
u don't have to have a record breaking season, and be the best qb for 18 or 19 games. just have to get to the tournament and be the hottest qb in 3 or 4 games.

get in the playoffs, with 4 games to win and you have peyton throwing the football for you? yeah, i'll take that...

Peyton is a great (elite) indoor QB.  He a good (but not great) outdoor QB.  His numbers have benifited greatly from playing all his home games and many of his road games in domes.  (3 out of 4 AFCS teams have domes). 

Not saying his a bad outdoor QB, but he is not a great QB outdoors had he been orginally drafted by an outdoor team he would still have been good enough to keep the starting job, but it is unlikely he would have all his MVPs and be a lock for the HOF. 

I welcome him to come to the AFCE.   
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2012, 02:01:52 pm »
Cineversity is starting...so a quick comment...

I think we need to play it smart,and Agree with Hoodie this could be a disaster,and need to play it like we did Kyle Orton....Shark tank like...

Hey Peyton, We'll give you $$$,we'll let you run your offense,We'll build around you to win now,But we wont guarantee you that we wont sign another QB,or draft a QB...That's our offer,or We're out....

I think if you sign Peyton, you have to give me hope for the years 2014 and beyond.I think as a franchise wee need to cover our tails for once.......It's just the way I feel...I don't have a prayer that actually happen....
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2012, 02:11:26 pm »
I look at it as "let's try something different."

We've tried the diamond-in-the-rough second-rounders.
We've tried raiding other teams' backup QBs.
So let's go for either a blue-chip QB (RG3) or an aging HOFer (Manning).
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2012, 02:16:59 pm »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on March 07, 2012, 01:40:21 pm
Peyton is a great (elite) indoor QB.  He a good (but not great) outdoor QB.  His numbers have benifited greatly from playing all his home games and many of his road games in domes.  (3 out of 4 AFCS teams have domes).
BS.  Any great QB will have a better record in whatever type of stadium his home stadium is... particularly since every game that isn't of that type will be a road game!  Brett Favre was a "horrible" dome QB... then he went to Minnesota in 2009 and went 10-0 in domes.  I guess he instantly learned how to play in a dome!

Do you honestly believe that if Peyton Manning had been drafted by San Diego, he'd be considered a "good (but not great)" QB?  He would have played over 75% of his games in outdoor stadiums.

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2012, 02:56:18 pm »
Can Miami even afford Peyton?  Last I heard, Miami has only $16 million in cap room.  Sure you can restructure a few contracts here and there (Dansby, Bell, etc).  I know Peyton has already said it's not about the money..but he's going to get a nice contract. Miami needs help on both sides of the line..is putting all your eggs in Manning's basket the wise thing to do?  If that right side of the offensive line can't protect Peyton, he's going to last as long as Culpepper did. 


Idk, I'm not trying to sound like a pessimist..I want Peyton as much as the next guy.  I just feel like there's some sort of catch.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2012, 02:59:56 pm »
I for one am not torn at all......if we have an opportunity to sign one of the best QB's the league has ever seen......we do it. He is a proven player and a Peyton Manning even at 80% is better than any QB we have had since Marino. In my opinion there is no more risk in this than signing an unproven Matt Flynn to a huge deal or taking a chance on an unproven Luck or RGIII who could be the next Manning or the next Leaf.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2012, 04:47:47 pm »
^^^ EXACTLY
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2012, 08:31:55 pm »
ah it's going to be great seeing peyton against that vaunted patriots secondary... same one that let henne rip them for like 400 yards
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2012, 10:02:34 pm »
I, too, am torn with Peyton.

It brings instant credibility to the team if he is signed.  Not just within the league, but when you've got a HOFer under center, I would imagine the whole team feels a lot better about themselves and their chances.  I'm sure every member of the team would welcome it...except maybe Matt Moore, but I think he'd understand. Tongue
If Peyton does play in Miami, then priority #1 this off-season is getting a line that can keep him upright.  Not just a good line, but it would need to be a damn good line if you're serious about keeping him injury free.

My ONLY concern with Manning is the potential injury situation.  It makes me think Matt Flynn would actually be the less risky pick up.  (Would love RG3, but that ain't gonna happen.)
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2012, 10:26:38 pm »
Quote from: dolfan13 on March 07, 2012, 08:31:55 pm
ah it's going to be great seeing peyton against that vaunted patriots secondary... same one that let henne rip them for like 400 yards


As much as I would love to see this..don't pre-order the jersey just yet lol
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2012, 11:03:43 pm »
Not torn at all.  Sell the farm for him.  Give him whatever he wants, and don't let him leave Miami without autographing a deal first.  Address everything else through the draft.

Don't let this be another Drew Brees situation.

Can't wait to see what the next thing is for all those "we need a QB" people.
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