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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2012, 02:01:58 pm »

There is a real ringing endorsement. Looks guys, I would bet money that in three years none of you will look back and say, we sure should have taken Tannehill. The guy is an NFL turnover machine waiting to happen.

I'm not so sure that's true.. unlike a lot of other QB's he comes from a pro style offense.  His two flaws "He stares down WR's and he waits for WR's to get open before throwing it."  Are expected for a QB that played only 19 games.   If we believe what Ross says then Philbin was not convinced a QB he spent 4 seasons with was worth taking a risk on.  If they make a move for Tannehill... that tells me he saw something in him or Sherman convinced him Tannehill is worth it!
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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2012, 02:45:17 pm »

His two flaws "He stares down WR's and he waits for WR's to get open before throwing it."  Are expected for a QB that played only 19 games.   

They were also the two main complaints everyone had against Henne.
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2012, 02:58:21 pm »

They were also the two main complaints everyone had against Henne.

Point taken... the difference here is we have a coach/oc here in Sherman that has actually worked with Tannehill!

not sure how much that helps.. LOL
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2012, 06:22:26 pm »

I don't ever remember seeing he was a second round talent. Everything I read said mid first-founder, so he hasn't moved up that much. -EK
Two easy, high-profile examples:

- In Mel Kiper's first two mock drafts (on 1/18/12 and 2/15/12), Tannehill was not in the first round.  On the third one (3/7/12), he's going 12th.
- For ESPN.com's other draft specialist, Todd McShay, he did not have Tannehill in the first round on his first mock (12/21/11).  On his second mock (2/2/12), Tannehill went late in the first: 25th to DEN.  In his latest mock, Tannehill is going 8th to Miami.

That's a hell of an offseason improvement.

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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2012, 06:31:33 pm »

They were also the two main complaints everyone had against Henne.

But Henne doesn't have and never had the upside this kid has
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2012, 07:06:08 pm »

Two easy, high-profile examples:

- In Mel Kiper's first two mock drafts (on 1/18/12 and 2/15/12), Tannehill was not in the first round.  On the third one (3/7/12), he's going 12th.
- For ESPN.com's other draft specialist, Todd McShay, he did not have Tannehill in the first round on his first mock (12/21/11).  On his second mock (2/2/12), Tannehill went late in the first: 25th to DEN.  In his latest mock, Tannehill is going 8th to Miami.

That's a hell of an offseason improvement.

I agree Tannehill is gonna get over drafted,by us,or Cleveland,whom ever...(so Sorry for hijacking the thread...)

Where was RG3 in the same span? I mean he's now going second behind Luck (I don't have "espn insider" and am unable to see)....Thank you...

The reason why ask, ( I don't watch college football!) I remember hearing about Lucks potential greatness for awhile,and the "If's" of Barkley,or Landry come out in this years draft...Prior to last years season I don't remember hearing a lot about RG3...(or Tannehill for that matter)

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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2012, 07:39:52 pm »

The reason why ask, ( I don't watch college football!) I remember hearing about Lucks potential greatness for awhile,and the "If's" of Barkley,or Landry come out in this years draft...Prior to last years season I don't remember hearing a lot about RG3...(or Tannehill for that matter)

A couple things about RG3:

He absolutely floored everyone at the combine. And I'm not talking about on the field stuff. His presence, his knowledge... extremely rare. The experts were raving about how much he knew about NFL offenses.

RG3 didn't play much in 2009 after tearing his ACL in the 3rd game. That injury made his 2011 season more important than it would have been for other, comparable players. Baylor weren't expected to do particularly well last season, but they really surprised a lot of people and RG3 was the main reason.

Look at his college stats and, just by the numbers, there are a lot of things that scream "top tier talent". The progression in completion percentage is exactly what you want to see for a top pick (from just under 60% in his first year to 72.4% in 2011, with increases every year). His touchdown-to-interception ratio also improved every season (disregarding 2009).

The point is, there were a lot more unknowns with Griffin before the 2011 season (than the other top quarterback prospects), so it's only logical that he would climb the draft boards -- not only during the season, but also after the combine and his pro day.

Contrast that with Tannehill... very inexperienced, completion percentage dropped in 2011 (his first full year as a starter, having started half the games in 2010). He couldn't beat out Jerrod Johnson (who went undrafted last year).

Tannehill is pure *potential*. He's not worth a crap right now.

Can he become a top NFL quarterback... maybe, but COACHING is going to be paramount and I have zero confidence that Miami can perform in that department.
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« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2012, 09:48:08 am »

Two easy, high-profile examples:

- In Mel Kiper's first two mock drafts (on 1/18/12 and 2/15/12), Tannehill was not in the first round.  On the third one (3/7/12), he's going 12th.
- For ESPN.com's other draft specialist, Todd McShay, he did not have Tannehill in the first round on his first mock (12/21/11).  On his second mock (2/2/12), Tannehill went late in the first: 25th to DEN.  In his latest mock, Tannehill is going 8th to Miami.

That's a hell of an offseason improvement.

It's getting worse too... George Seifert of NFLN said that Minnesota was looking to deal the #3 overall pick, and according to Seifert, teams may look to move up to #3 to draft Tannehill.

Surely, it doth boggle the mind.

On a "short" note: Two undersized QBs who will likely go in the middle rounds that I'd have no problem seeing on SF or Miami's roster: Russell Wilson from Wisconsin and Kellen Moore from Boise State. I think both have great minds for the position and are highly accurate passers.

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« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2012, 10:37:30 am »

This Tannehill crap is getting ridiculous. Dude sucks.
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« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2012, 11:06:46 am »

This Tannehill crap is getting ridiculous. Dude sucks.

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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2012, 01:13:36 pm »

Where was RG3 in the same span? I mean he's now going second behind Luck (I don't have "espn insider" and am unable to see)....Thank you...
Kiper had RG3 at 4th, 4th, 2nd.
McShay had him at 7th, 4th, 4th (this was before the Redskin trade).
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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2012, 02:01:10 pm »

Thank you FYO,and Spider for the info...
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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2012, 12:59:45 pm »

No value in taking Tannehill at No. 8.

I say Miami trades up to the No. 4 spot and takes Blackmon.
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« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2012, 01:38:10 pm »

From all reports Tannehill won't be there at 8. Won't be an issue.

His stock is rising fast. Report out today Browns might trade down to 6 and take Tannehill. Pick up even more picks to go along with the #22 pick they already have which will let them take RB's and WR's they want to build around him.
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« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2012, 10:52:22 am »

There is a real ringing endorsement. Looks guys, I would bet money that in three years none of you will look back and say, we sure should have taken Tannehill. The guy is an NFL turnover machine waiting to happen.

I agree a turnover machine waiting to happen. Tannehill is not even close to being ready to play QB in the nfl we would be smart not to take him. There are other QBs that should go before Tannehill size and a strong arm mean nothing when you throw interceptions. I won't be looking back and saving my money.
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