NFL.com ranks starting QB's

[MikeO]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8281b796/article/quarterback-rankings-eli-manning-tops-list-heading-into-2012?module=HP11_content_stream

Moore was 31st
Henne was 32nd dead last (they just assumed Henne would beat out Blain Gabbert)...lol

[Fins4ever]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8281b796/article/quarterback-rankings-eli-manning-tops-list-heading-into-2012?module=HP11_content_stream

Moore was 31st
Henne was 32nd dead last (they just assumed Henne would beat out Blain Gabbert)...lol

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Definitely do not agree. I saw a ranking that had Moore 11th. Will try to find link. IMO, he is probably somewhere in between.

[Fins4ever]

I could not find the link that had Moore ranked 11th, but did find this one. Would you believe he is ranked 42nd??? OMG!!


http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7160762/nfl-quarterback-power-rankings

[MikeO]

I could not find the link that had Moore ranked 11th, but did find this one. Would you believe he is ranked 42nd??? OMG!!


http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7160762/nfl-quarterback-power-rankings

Not surprising. The people that throw the "he was 6-3 down the stretch" fail to mention that in two of those 3 games he lost by himself (Giants and Pats). And in those 6 wins he didn't beat 1 decent team. He beat a bad Buffalo team twice, he beat KC, Oakland, Washington, and a Jets team that had a player quit on the field in the middle of the game.

Not one of those teams made the playoffs and none of them were any good last season.

Matt Moore hasn't beaten a what you would call a "good" team since the final game of the 2009 season in which he beat the Saints when the Saints had nothing to play for and "mailed it in" that game because they had everything locked up!

[Fins4ever]

I think that is being a little rough on Moore. He had no OTA's, training camp or nothing.  He was thrown in at the last minute because of injury. The right side of the line sucked and his diva WR dropped more TD's than the rest of the league.

As far as not beating a good team, IMO the parity in the NFL has never been greater. I don't think there is a patsie left. Moore got some bad breaks as well. Many of the picks were not his fault and had Jimmy Wilson not fumbled the onside kick, we would have easily beat Denver.   

[Diehard_Dolfan]

I think Moore deserves more credit than he's given...   like Fins4ever said he had no  OTA's or training camp!  He was learning a new system and until Henne went down he wasn't getting many snaps at QB!   Marshall did drop a lot of balls and Moore did improve over the season. 

Can he be a Kurt Warner? Probably not!

But given a chance with OTA's and training camp who knows how good he could become?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I don't put stock in any of them.

All it takes is a keyboard and a blog to make a list. 

[Fins4ever]

I don't put stock in any of them.

All it takes is a keyboard and a blog to make a list. 

Good point. No matter what methodology they incorporate in making their list, it will never be accurate. for example, do you think Moore's stats would have been better if he would have been on G.B or the Giants? How about throwing to a pair of excellent TE's like in N.E.?

[Diehard_Dolfan]

Good point. No matter what methodology they incorporate in making their list, it will never be accurate. for example, do you think Moore's stats would have been better if he would have been on G.B or the Giants? How about throwing to a pair of excellent TE's like in N.E.?

Can't say for sure... but, I think Moore's numbers would have been much better playing for Green Bay or NE!  He really only had Marshall as a real threat here... given another threat like the TE's in NE or Green Bay's O-line and receiving corps!

But Painter had talent around him in Indy and that didn't work so well... did it?

[EKnight]

Not surprising. The people that throw the "he was 6-3 down the stretch" fail to mention that in two of those 3 games he lost by himself (Giants and Pats). And in those 6 wins he didn't beat 1 decent team. He beat a bad Buffalo team twice, he beat KC, Oakland, Washington, and a Jets team that had a player quit on the field in the middle of the game.

Not one of those teams made the playoffs and none of them were any good last season.

Matt Moore hasn't beaten a what you would call a "good" team since the final game of the 2009 season in which he beat the Saints when the Saints had nothing to play for and "mailed it in" that game because they had everything locked up!

Oddly these are the same teams and same games you hang your "the defense was so great" hat on. So the D gets credit for beating bad teams, but Moore doesn't; the D takes no blame for falling apart in the fourth quarter and losing multiple games, but Moore- who isn't even on the field when those points are scored, gets blamed for losing leads against the Pats and Giants?? Consistency please? -EK

[MikeO]

I think that is being a little rough on Moore. He had no OTA's, training camp or nothing.  

He had the same amount of an offseason time as everyone else!

Alex Smith was playing in a new offense last year. He was "thrown" into it! Played just fine. Cam Newton had no offseason and was a ROOKIE, he did fine!

That excuse doesn't fly with me!

[MikeO]

, but Moore- who isn't even on the field when those points are scored, gets blamed for losing leads against the Pats and Giants?? Consistency please? -EK

This is a stupid argument and stance! When Moore turns the ball over on the 2 yard line and gives Dallas the ball on the goaline, Moore doesn't "technically" need to be on the field when points are scored. He just handed them points. That's his fault! Same for the Philly game. In the Giants game when Miami has the lead heading into the 4th quarter and Moore leads the offense to 4 total yards and 1 first down in the 4th quarter and can't give the defense a rest or keep them off the field, and then throws a bad INT to boot....that is Matt Moore LOSING THE GAME!  You can "spin the blame" anyway you want, but that is the QB not making a play to lead the team to victory!

[EKnight]

How is it stupid? Just because you don't agree with it? Maybe if that incredible D would have held one or two guys to a FG instead of a TD every once in a while I'd buy into your argument, but they didn't. That's not Moore's fault, no matter where the ball is placed. Do I really need to remind you how many fourth quarter points the D allowed in their losses?? You understand the irony in the fact that you consistently try to rag on me about Sanchez and Tebow, and your almighty Miami D allowed 32 fourth quarter or OT points to those two QB's in only three games. If the D gives up over 10 points per game in the fourth quarter to two guys who you think don't deserve to even be in the league at QB, that's not Moore's fault at all. Love to see how you'll spin this.




-EK

[Fins4ever]

How is it stupid? Just because you don't agree with it?



Uh, that would be a big yes.

[EKnight]

^^Liking the new guy lol. -EK