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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2012, 10:51:13 am »

Why are you so convinced that Miami gives that much up? You can't possibly know that. It's absolute speculation. They could go 4-12 have one of the top three picks and give up nothing.
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Vegas has the over under on wins for them at 6.5, so it's fairly likely they will be in a similar spot next year as they are this year.
Great point!

So if Miami is likely to be in the same spot next year as they are this year, and next year won't have the next John Elway and the guy who beat him for the Heisman at the top of the draft, it seems reasonable to believe that the ~3rd best QB in the draft next year probably won't be as good as the 3rd best QB this year.

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You're also saying Miami only has to give up one first round pick to move up this year.
When did I say ANYTHING about moving up this year?

Miami will likely be able to get Tannehill at 8.  If they can, they should.  If not, they should pick someone else.

If you want to get someone BETTER than Tannehill next year (e.g. Barkley or Landry), and Miami has a similar pick, they will have to trade up to get him.  As you point out, trading away multiple early-round picks for a flavor-of-the-month QB is not worth it.  That's why Tannehill would be a good value (when you're using your own pick, and nothing else) at 8.
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2012, 11:03:36 am »

It's not a given that they'd have to trade up next year. What part of that ate you unable to comprehend? There are at least four QBs that will come out next year that are likely going to rate higher than Tannehill. Four. If they can get the third QB THIS year at #8 why would they have to move up next year to get the third or fourth best? There's no reason to believe they would. Now oh great king of the last word, unless you have a crystal ball and can absolutely KNOW where they are going to pick next year, it's pointless to continue this. You believe what you want, I will believe what I want. Let's not blow up another thread with a pointless argument. -EK
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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2012, 11:39:37 am »

The frustrating thing is you really don't know who to beleive. One poster is saying tannehill is higher than any QB next year and another says four will be ahead of him. No one really knows either way. I'm concerned abotu drafting tannehill as his strangths/weaknesses tend to remind me of Chad Henne which a lot of perople wanted to run out of town.
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2012, 12:13:18 pm »

The thing to do is go back and look at where the QB's were ranked before all the draft hype had players moving all over the place who didn't take another snap. If each of the QB's had stayed through 2013, WalterFootball ranked them in this order: Luck, Barkley, Jones, Murray (out of Georgia), Bray (Tenn), Wilson (Ark), RG3, Manual (Florida St.), then Tannehill. Three of those guys would be gone, leaving 5 who were ranked ahead of Tannehill. As of right now, Barkley, Jones, Wilson, and Bray could EACH go number one overall next year, depending on how they play. The 2013 draft is VERRRRRRRRRRY QB deep, with some writers already labeling it "The year of the QB" before the season even starts. Depending on who you're reading, and who comes out, anywhere from 5 to 7 guys will be first rounders in 2013.

http://nfldr.blogspot.com/2012/03/2013-nfl-draft-year-of-quarterback.html
http://nflmocks.com/2012/04/02/future-bounty-the-2013-qb-draft-class/

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« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2012, 12:48:55 pm »

I'm concerned abotu drafting tannehill as his strangths/weaknesses tend to remind me of Chad Henne which a lot of perople wanted to run out of town.
What about Tannehill reminds you of Chad Henne? I can't think of much other than maybe a strong arm, but that should remind you of above half the QB's in the league. Tannehill is FAR more athletic than Henne and also far more excitable. Henne was praised as being poised in the pocket, but in the NFL that worked against him because he was so unattached. He didn't get people fired up. Tannehill played 2 years as a WR, he's an exciting player and gets people excited. I believe Henne started all 4 years at Michigan, he was as polished as a QB can get coming out of college. Tannehill has played 19 games is about as raw as a QB can get. Tannehill is ALL upside. Henne had no upside, he was good as he was ever gonna get coming out of college. That's why he hasn't proven to be an elite QB in the NFL. I don't know if Tannehill will ever be an elite QB either because it's only potential at this point, but don't compare him to Henne. The 2 are nothing alike.
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2012, 01:19:37 pm »

^^^ They are more alike than you realize. The positive- strong arm. The negative- stares down receivers. That is about all you need to know.
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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2012, 01:22:11 pm »

Well in that case all we need is a noodle-armed QB with a nervous tick and we are SET!  Evil
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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2012, 01:22:39 pm »

Didn't they have that in Pennington already? -EK
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« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2012, 02:45:29 pm »

I still think Chad Henne is a good QB.  You'll see this season.
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« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2012, 03:32:11 pm »

^^I still think he's an average QB.
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« Reply #40 on: April 24, 2012, 05:23:52 pm »

I still think Chad Henne is a good QB.  You'll see this season.

HA! If he doesn't beat out Blaine Gabbart in camp then I think you need to come here and publicly admit you were wrong! lol lol
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« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2012, 06:10:08 pm »

HA! If he doesn't beat out Blaine Gabbart in camp then I think you need to come here and publicly admit you were wrong! lol lol
If he does beat out Gabbert are you gonna admit he's good? Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2012, 07:17:41 pm »

If he does beat out Gabbert are you gonna admit he's good? Smiley

LOL....no because its Blaine Gabbert!! lol
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« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2012, 07:53:04 am »


In reality, he's a late-first or second round talent.  He shouldn't even be in the conversation in the top 10, but he has been boosted because so many teams had their eyes on QB's this season.  Taking Tannehill would be just grabbing the next QB, regardless of talent level. 



 Ben Rothlisberger

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 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes And your point is about a Late First-round  draft pick

Ben did not start immediately , He was the No. 3 QB behind Tommy Maddox and Charlie Batch.

So what if Tannehil  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Behind Garrard and Moore . Im just saying  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2012, 09:37:12 am »

LOL....no because its Blaine Gabbert!! lol

That isn't a bad point...
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