I don't want Tannehill

[Brian Fein]

HA! If he doesn't beat out Blaine Gabbart in camp then I think you need to come here and publicly admit you were wrong! lol lol

I will, gladly, as long as you reciprocate if he has a good season.  No excuses like "he played against crappy teams" or "Jones-Drew carried him all season"

Deal?

[MikeO]

I will, gladly, as long as you reciprocate if he has a good season.  No excuses like "he played against crappy teams" or "Jones-Drew carried him all season"

Deal?

Yeah deal, but its a good season. Not a good game or two. Not a good month. A good SEASON. where he plays 14 or more games. The team is at .500 or better with him as a starter. He has more TD's than interceptions. QB rating and completion % is decent.

And if he doesn't start till mid or late-October because he loses the training camp battle to Gabbart then I already win right there.

Those are the terms I agree too.. 

[Spider-Dan]

So let's be clear: if Henne has exactly the season that Matt Moore had last year, wins, losses, stats and all, who would win?

[mecadonzilla]

For Henne, Moore's season would be a success by those terms.  I can't recall better for him.

[MikeO]

So let's be clear: if Henne has exactly the season that Matt Moore had last year, wins, losses, stats and all, who would win?

then I would lose if Henne has the year Moore had last year. With one exception, if Henne doesn't see the field till mid-October then I win. I mean if you can't beat out Blaine Gabbert in training camp and Henne sits the first 4-6 games, I win right there off the bat.

If Henne only plays in like 9 games and those are a good 9 games, that's not a season. The deal is who has the better season. Which in my book is 13 or more games

[Spider-Dan]

Moore only started 12 games and only saw the field because of an injury to Henne.

Just clarifying the terms.  I'd say if you start the majority of games for a season (so, 9+) you were the starter for that season.

[Fins4ever]

See, I really hate this lowballing term and I blame media hype.

If anyone got low-balled it was RT Eric Winston. EW was a $$ casualty from Houston and ranked in the top 10 at his position. He was making appx. 5 mil a year and according to sources, his wife wanted to live in Miami.  Miami came and left Miami without a contract. EW ended up signing in KC for 22 mil for 4 yrs. 

That my friend is low balling. Of course it isn't like they need a RT or anything.   

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Ben Rothlisberger


Ben did not start immediately

He started week 3. 

[MikeO]

Moore only started 12 games and only saw the field because of an injury to Henne.

Just clarifying the terms.  I'd say if you start the majority of games for a season (so, 9+) you were the starter for that season.

If you can't win the training camp battle and only play half the games, that isn't a successful season in my book.

And those are my terms 

[Brian Fein]

I understand your terms as listed below

-must play in 13 games minimum
-must have more TD's than INT's
-must have more wins than losses as a starter
-QB rating or at least 70
-completion % greater than 55%

To be clear, if he gets blind-sided by a DE and tears an ACL, its hardly Chad's fault, so your "games played" requirement seems like an easy-out clause for you.  So I would recommend modifying it to be "must start more than half the games for his team," thus making him the primary Jaguars' starter for the season.  Or perhaps a minimum of 300 pass attempts for the year.  Just to qualify as "enough playing time."

[MikeO]

I understand your terms as listed below

-must play in 13 games minimum
-must have more TD's than INT's
-must have more wins than losses as a starter
-QB rating or at least 70
-completion % greater than 55%

To be clear, if he gets blind-sided by a DE and tears an ACL, its hardly Chad's fault, so your "games played" requirement seems like an easy-out clause for you.  So I would recommend modifying it to be "must start more than half the games for his team," thus making him the primary Jaguars' starter for the season.  Or perhaps a minimum of 300 pass attempts for the year.  Just to qualify as "enough playing time."

If he WINS the job out of camp and is having a career year with great stats and gets hurt then I will admit it. I mean if he gets hurt in week 2 or 3 and has a couple good games then no. But if he gets hurt in November then yeah, good enough. Not his fault.

[Brian Fein]

Fair enough.  I'm in.

[bsfins]

I think this needs more than an admittance,it needs more for the spectators in the peanut gallery....It needs to be a "Poop" avatar,or Henne rules,Henne sucks Avatar might be more appropriate bet for all these stipulations to with the admittance...Maybe an I'm wrong about Henne under the avatar....

Just a thought...ignore me...

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Mike,

So basically as you define things, Drew Bledsoe not Tom Brady was the Patriots QB the year they won their first superbowl?

[Pappy13]

^^As was Earl Morrall the year the Dolphins went undefeated.