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EKnight
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2012, 11:57:48 am »

How does that equal 75%? That seems like none of it is his fault. Regarding the "he can demand cameras aren't there" comment by Mike, actually, no he can't. Freedom of press. -EK
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2012, 12:08:14 pm »

I'd say about 75% isn't his fault.  There are interviews that the NFL requires players to do.  I'm sure some of the charities want the camera's there, it gives them exposure so that they can raise needed funds.  IF Tebow has done charity work without the cameras, etc, we probably wouldn't know about it right??  OR perhaps that would be a bigger media storm with "news" organizations making a big deal that he didn't want camera's there.  In a sense the guy can't win either way.  BUT, the media hype is good for him, builds exposure, builds his "brand", makes him money. However, I guarantee there are reporters out there looking for some skeleton in the closet that they can crucify him with though.

And how is that any of Tebow's fault?
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2012, 02:04:22 pm »

^^^ The parts where he does have free will to play along with the media hype, 60 minutes interview for example.
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2012, 05:17:19 pm »

^^^ The parts where he does have free will to play along with the media hype, 60 minutes interview for example.

And if he doesn't say at which events he will be appearing then the media doesn't know. Hence they can't follow him there or be waiting for him there.

Charity isn't about watching you hand over the check or chat with the kids. It's about just doing it. Many celebrities can do charitable gestures without the attention and cameras. They figure it out and figure out a way to keep the attention away. If Tebow wanted to, he could. He doesn't want too.
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2012, 08:14:41 pm »

Tebow's goal in life is that everyone will come to Christ and that he can do whatever to bring Christ into their lives.  He isn't setting his schedule so that he won't upset people who feel they see too much of him.
Do you have the same opinion of, say, Tom Cruise?
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2012, 01:54:28 am »

Tebow's goal in life is that everyone will come to Christ and that he can do whatever to bring Christ into their lives.  He isn't setting his schedule so that he won't upset people who feel they see too much of him. 

Once again, all I said was people are tired of seeing and hearing him period. It is a legitimate complaint as it borders on insanity. There are many people who are seen or heard too much about besides Tebow, and I am tired of them too.
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2012, 07:45:25 am »

Once again, all I said was people are tired of seeing and hearing him period. It is a legitimate complaint as it borders on insanity. There are many people who are seen or heard too much about besides Tebow, and I am tired of them too.
Not sure why you quoted me but I was referring to MikeO's post "Tebow is allowed to say NO to interviews. He doesn't have to give each and every one that is requested. Nobody forced him to do a 60 Minutes piece (just one example.)  He can demand cameras aren't there when he does charity work. But funny how damn near every one is captured on tape." FWIW ... I would bet Tebow does a  lot of good things off camera too.

I can totally understand why people think he is seen too much. I just don't think that's his goal.

This kind of reminds me of something I heard a long time ago ... no matter how hot a women/girl is, there is probably someone who is tired of her.


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« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2012, 11:05:18 am »

Why do people who dislike him so much care? What's the difference to you one way or the other? If you don't like it, no one is forcing you to click on it. I know it comes as a shock to some people, but there are more important things- and some things that get put on "sports" pages- than what happens on the field every week. That's why he gets a tracker.

FWIW, mark this thread, because he may start the season as the back-up QB, but he won't stay there all year. Look at the Jets' schedule- Bills-Steelers-Dolphins-Niners-Texans to start. Combined record last year 47-33. With the way Sanchez finished the year last year, it wouldn't surprise me if Tebow is starting by week 6 against the Colts. -EK

I am with you. It is a shame the media turns us off of certain people. Tebow is getting his 15 minutes. All networks do it. My wife watches the reality crap and the cooking shows. There were several months when you could not turn the tv on without seeing Rachael Ray or Kim Kardasian. UGH!

As far as Tebow goes, exploiting him doesn't bother me near as much as seeing Tom Brady on     ES Patriot Network 23 hours a day.   
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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2012, 11:41:33 am »

And if he doesn't say at which events he will be appearing then the media doesn't know. Hence they can't follow him there or be waiting for him there.

Charity isn't about watching you hand over the check or chat with the kids. It's about just doing it. Many celebrities can do charitable gestures without the attention and cameras. They figure it out and figure out a way to keep the attention away. If Tebow wanted to, he could. He doesn't want too.

This is a lame argument. Isn't it more likely than not that he IS doing plenty of work that he doesn't seek coverage for?  If he doesn't say, then the media doesn't know? You can't be that naive about how the media works, can you? There are AP guys whose entire job is to do nothing but look for things like this. Do you really think it was just coincidence some news agencies had stories of Tiger Woods's diddling BEFORE he crashed his car and it made national attention? Major media outlets have entire departments devoted completely to researching celebrities and their good and bad deeds. What are the chances that- realistically- a guy like Tebow, whose first response after a win is to praise his teammates and take the focus away from himself, is out "seeking" press coverage for his charity work? The media covers EVERYTHING he does. That was the entire point of this thread- that Tebow doesn't deserve a "tracker" on ESPN. He is a polarizing figure. Like that or not, it's what he is. To make the claim that he doesn't want to do charity without cameras present is just ridiculous. Do you think when he was at UF, in the week leading up to UF’s spring football game, when he participated in charity events that raised around $300,000 for the children’s hospital at Shands at UF and an orphanage in the Philippines, he was lobbying for press coverage? Did you even know he did that? Yes he gets a ton of coverage, there's no doubt, but to think he seeks it sounds like sour grapes.


Once again, all I said was people are tired of seeing and hearing him period. It is a legitimate complaint as it borders on insanity. There are many people who are seen or heard too much about besides Tebow, and I am tired of them too.

I absolutely agree there are people who are sick of hearing about him. But there are far more who are NOT sick of him. He is still the most popular athlete in America. There's really no debating that. Until that changes, he's going to have trackers, stories, pictorials, and coverage. His actual ability has nothing to do with that, and the "purist" football nerds who don't get that, and don't get that life is bigger than what goes on on the field are just going to have to deal with it in whatever way they choose to. Every time I turn on the news, there's somebody killing their infant, shooting a school up, dying of incurable bone disease, or drowning in debt. Here's a guy who seems pretty squeaky-clean and who gives back- in one way or another- more than most. And people are sick of the coverage? When was the last time someone throwing those stones volunteered at a soup kitchen, worked with the MDA or March of Dimes or any one of a thousand other charities on a regular basis? Before you bag on the guy, try his lifestyle for a little while. You might be surprised and find out it's not really so bad. -EK
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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2012, 12:08:33 pm »

And if he doesn't say at which events he will be appearing then the media doesn't know. Hence they can't follow him there or be waiting for him there.

Charity isn't about watching you hand over the check or chat with the kids. It's about just doing it. Many celebrities can do charitable gestures without the attention and cameras. They figure it out and figure out a way to keep the attention away. If Tebow wanted to, he could. He doesn't want too.
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I disagree. Tebow has been doing missionary work all his life and he had some privacy until he played with Denver last year. Even winning 2 National Championships at UF did not garner the attention he gets now. I feel for the guy. He can't take a crap without being on camera and being in the Big Apple makes it all the more worse.
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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2012, 03:19:49 pm »

I look on ESPN for sports news, not charity news.  A SPORTS site shouldn't be giving Tebow any more coverage then, let's say, John Skelton, Joe Webb, TJ Yates, Brian Hoyer, or any other backup QB in the league.  When they start up a TJ Yates tracker, then I will bow out of my hatred for Tebow.

All of these guys could be just as "good" of people, but you would never know it.  Most of you probably couldn't even tell me what teams these guys play for.
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2012, 03:35:17 pm »

I look on ESPN for sports news, not charity news.  A SPORTS site shouldn't be giving Tebow any more coverage then, let's say, John Skelton, Joe Webb, TJ Yates, Brian Hoyer, or any other backup QB in the league.  When they start up a TJ Yates tracker, then I will bow out of my hatred for Tebow.

All of these guys could be just as "good" of people, but you would never know it.  Most of you probably couldn't even tell me what teams these guys play for.
Isn't your anger misdirected? Shouldn't your anger be with ESPN more so than say Tebow or did he buy the station and is forcing them to show himself?
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2012, 04:18:39 pm »

I'm not mad at Tebow.  I dislike his existence.  I never said it was his fault.  I just want to stop hearing about him.
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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2012, 06:55:05 pm »

Tebow wouldn't be getting this kinda of coverage if it didn't generate page hits.  By starting this thread and adding the link that we all followed, will result in more news on Tebow, not less. 

If you want less coverage on Tebow stop clicking on every link with his name in it. 
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« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2012, 10:56:33 pm »

Tebow wouldn't be getting this kinda of coverage if it didn't generate page hits.  By starting this thread and adding the link that we all followed, will result in more news on Tebow, not less. 

If you want less coverage on Tebow stop clicking on every link with his name in it. 


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