Jeff Ireland is having a great draft so far

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I have equivalent information to any fan and my rating is based on that of a fans rating.

Which is not much. 

Giving out grades for the draft, between the draft and training camp is like awarding a student his/her GPA on the day of class registration, instead of after final exams.

Which is why I say you can't give out draft grades until 2 or 3 years after the draft.  We can have an intelligent discussion about if Long and Henne were good uses of Dolphin draft picks.  Whether Tannehill was a great pick, a horrible pick or something in between we won't know for some time. 

[Sunstroke]

Grading a draft immediately after the draft is the same thing as grading your own personal level of confidence in the players drafted. Nothing more, nothing less.

"I really like Bubba Johnson, and the team drafted Bubba Johnson...woo-hoo, slap an "A" on that pick! 
Leon Jones in round two? I heard someone, somewhere, say something nice about him on TV recently. Let's give that one a B-plus."

[masterfins]

Moore or Gararrd will be gone by the 3rd preseason game.  Unless there is an injury of some sort

I hope not, unless we get something for trading them.  Come mid season there will be teams that need a backup QB as a result of injuries, would be nice to have one to trade for an extra future pick.

[Spider-Dan]

It is unlikely that Miami could get anything for Garrard, seeing as how he spent 2011 on his couch without a job.

[MikeO]

It is unlikely that Miami could get anything for Garrard, seeing as how he spent 2011 on his couch without a job.

No he will be cut! You can't trade him!

[Brian Fein]

Why do you think they won't keep both Moore and Garrard?  Its about having a servicable backup incase of injury.  If they cut one of them and the other gets hurt, you are stuck with Tannehill playing this year.  I think you guys are all way off base here.

[MikeO]

Why do you think they won't keep both Moore and Garrard?  Its about having a servicable backup incase of injury.  If they cut one of them and the other gets hurt, you are stuck with Tannehill playing this year.  I think you guys are all way off base here.

Tannehill will end up playing this year at some point. To think he will sit for 16 games and not see the field once, not gonna happen. 

And if Tannehill isn't playing you want him getting reps in practice. As a 3rd stringer you get ZERO reps in practice. That isn't learning squat. He needs reps. He needs to be the #2.

[masterfins]

^^^That doesn't mean Garrard can't take the third spot.  Better to collect a paycheck than to sit on the sofa another year.

[MikeO]

^^^That doesn't mean Garrard can't take the third spot.  Better to collect a paycheck than to sit on the sofa another year.

I see your point  but its not his choice though.

Having an old QB at the end of his career sitting 3rd on the depth chart isn't good for the player or the team, I would think they would probably go in another direction IF that's how it plays out. We will see.

[Brian Fein]

You talk like its set in stone.  You MUST be the #2 QB or you won't get any practice.

Dontcha think that they could put the kid on a program when trying to groom along a rookie without making him the lone backup option on Sundays?  Things can be done if you have a creative coach, and seeing what this guy has done in the past, I believe he can figure out a way to let the rookie practice and still be the emergency QB on game day.

[MikeO]

You talk like its set in stone.  You MUST be the #2 QB or you won't get any practice.

Dontcha think that they could put the kid on a program when trying to groom along a rookie without making him the lone backup option on Sundays?  Things can be done if you have a creative coach, and seeing what this guy has done in the past, I believe he can figure out a way to let the rookie practice and still be the emergency QB on game day.

There are only so many practice hours in a week during the season. NFLPA has reduced them with this last CBA. Only so many snaps and reps to go around and when preparing for real games, the time is limited and must be used wisely.

We will see but I would be shocked though if Tannehill isn't the backup QB. He is the #8 overall pick of the draft, even if he isn't ready to play you don't bury him on the depth chart

[Landshark]

I have to agree with MikeO here, Tannehill needs all the practice reps he can get. 

[Doc-phin]

Which is why I say you can't give out draft grades until 2 or 3 years after the draft.  We can have an intelligent discussion about if Long and Henne were good uses of Dolphin draft picks.  Whether Tannehill was a great pick, a horrible pick or something in between we won't know for some time. 

I disagree.  Hindsight is not always 20/20.  There are many factors that go into a players career, just like there are many factors that go into the draft.

The draft grade doesn't necessarilly need to be in relation to the outcome.  As I have said before, circumstances change the outcome but have nothing to do with the draft itself.

But if it makes you feel better we can call it a preliminary draft grade and say it is from a fans perspective.  It is still valid.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I disagree.  Hindsight is not always 20/20.  There are many factors that go into a players career, just like there are many factors that go into the draft.

The draft grade doesn't necessarilly need to be in relation to the outcome.  As I have said before, circumstances change the outcome but have nothing to do with the draft itself.

But if it makes you feel better we can call it a preliminary draft grade and say it is from a fans perspective.  It is still valid.

Okay you are right.  Both the Chargers and Colts deserve an A grade for the 2000 draft because BOTH drafted a franchise QB that will lead them to multiple championships.  A desperate need for both teams.   

[Doc-phin]

Okay you are right.  Both the Chargers and Colts deserve an A grade for the 2000 draft because BOTH drafted a franchise QB that will lead them to multiple championships.  A desperate need for both teams.   

First, I would never give a draft grade based on one player.

Second, who is to say that Ryan Leaf wouldn't have been successful in a different situation.  Lets say he started out on a different team.  Maybe we could consider one with a better O-line, running game, a solid tight end option and two fast receivers to take advantage of his big arm.  He lost his job because he couldn't handle the pressure that came down on him when he started throwing interceptions.  Lets say he was in a situation that gave him enough initial success to carry him through a rough streak or two.  His whole career and life for that matter could have been very different.

Circumstances affect outcomes.  It doesn't change the worthiness of the choice.

I have no clue how I would rate those drafts, I really have no interest in going back and investigating them.  Picking Payton Manning at #1 overall seems more of a no brainer than something that deserves credit for excellent decision making.