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« on: May 04, 2012, 06:05:02 am »

Just got back from the midnight premier, and I must say it is utterly beyond belief how good it turned out. I honestly believe this is the best Hulk ever.
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2012, 07:52:28 am »

I can't wait because I truly am Joss Whedon's bitch.
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2012, 07:56:42 am »

The wife and I were going to watch or rewatch the others before going to see this. I'm not usually excited about action movies but this seems pretty cool both in concept and the movie itself.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2012, 09:00:14 am »

I honestly believe this is the best Hulk ever.

That isn't saying much as the others sucked ass from my perspective.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2012, 09:29:13 am »

I haven't seen Thor, Captain America, or any of the previous Hulk movies.  I loved both Iron Man movies. 

Somehow I can't wait to see this movie.
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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2012, 09:55:33 am »

I'm semi curious to see this (not enough to actually go to a theater though),as I actually thought Captain America,and Thor weren't bad at all,I'm not really a comic book guy....

Slightly strange but related hijack...I also want to see Nick Campbells's (GSG) city kit being used in the movie...Every time he sees it used like on 30 rock promo,he tweets about it....End hijack...
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2012, 05:06:54 pm »

I did not have high expectations for the movie, but it freaking rocked.  The 3D was awesome and all the characters meshed very well.  I really like the actor they got to replace Ed Norton as Banner.
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2012, 05:19:49 pm »

Confirmed.  I went to the midnight showing and it was awesome.

Joss Wheadon's writing is great, in terms of character dynamics.
Scarlett Johannson (and her character) totally earns her keep, something I was concerned about.
They get the Hulk so right.  He's the most enjoyable character.

My only complaint, and this is pretty minor (possible spoiler):
Hulk goes from being a completely out of control beast to a beast that is relatively coherent and in control with no time and no exposition to support it.  Who cares, but if you're looking for story things that don't make sense, there's one.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2012, 05:51:59 pm »

I read an interesting review of the Avengers and I think it rings true.

While great, there is no character development.  Nobody grows.  There are no arcs.  Character time is spent bringing the team together.  Your connection to the character doesn't come from this film; it comes from the films before.  So, if you didn't watch Captain America, don't expect to care about him.  If you didn't watch Thor, don't expect his interactions with Loki to be all that meaningful.

I seriously recommend watching the other 5 Marvel films (at the very least, the 4 -- not counting Iron Man 2) to at least get acquainted with the characters.  Iron Man 2 does introduce some stuff, as well, but it's not completely imperative.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2012, 06:06:15 pm »

My only complaint, and this is pretty minor (possible spoiler):
Hulk goes from being a completely out of control beast to a beast that is relatively coherent and in control with no time and no exposition to support it.  Who cares, but if you're looking for story things that don't make sense, there's one.
I was actually typing something to this effect in my post; at precisely the needed time, Hulk instantly goes from raging uncontrollably to targeted violence.

However, in the 2008 film, when Hulk is fighting against the Abomination at the end, he does the same thing.  So I guess, as you said, his previous character development backs that change up.  (As a side note, I really liked that they included the line about Banner trying to shoot himself in the mouth, and waking up to find out that the Hulk had simply spit the bullet out.  It really works well to establish the idea that no matter what you do to puny Banner, the Hulk will show up and wreak havoc.)

Oh, and I loved the actor that played Loki.  He did an excellent job being the guy you love to hate.
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2012, 02:57:01 am »

I think it would be great if they wrote a new Hulk story with Ruffalo. He really captured Banner. This would help explain how he has learned to gain some control over the Hulk.
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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2012, 11:39:01 am »

They touched on him being able to control it at the end of the Incredible Hulk, when they show Norton's eyes glow green as he's doing yoga.

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They also have a line in Avengers, where Banner says that his secret is "I'm always angry", before turning into the Hulk very quickly.  I took that to mean that he's been able to control it for a long time, but in the incident in the airship, he just couldn't hold back any longer.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2012, 12:02:46 pm »

I truly am Joss Whedon's bitch.

Me, too!  LOL  I just about shat myself when they revealed the villain for the next flick.  I stood up clapping my popcorn butter stained paws together like a moron.

And the movie was excellent, BTW.  I had very high expectations and they were all met or exceeded.  I was trying to think about what I'd do to improve on the flick, and I really couldn't come up with anything.  As far as no one character getting an arc, it's really more about the team as a character.  The team is the thing that grows and develops as the movie progresses.

And this was my favorite version of the Hulk.  I still prefer Norton as banner, but Ruffalo did a fine job.  I was worried about how he'd fit in.

The producers better drive a truck full of money to Joss' house to get him to make the next movie.
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2012, 04:55:18 pm »

They touched on him being able to control it at the end of the Incredible Hulk, when they show Norton's eyes glow green as he's doing yoga.

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They also have a line in Avengers, where Banner says that his secret is "I'm always angry", before turning into the Hulk very quickly.  I took that to mean that he's been able to control it for a long time, but in the incident in the airship, he just couldn't hold back any longer.

I think Stark eluded to this many times. He realized that Banner was constantly wrestling with his demons and needed to let them out occasionally to better control them.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 01:52:07 pm »

I watched the movie on Friday and was blown away.  Loved it and can't wait to watch it again.  I think Hulk was awesome.

His late-film interaction with the antagonist blew the roof off the theater, too.  So freakin' cool.
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