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« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2012, 12:57:23 pm »

If true than the Dolphins are in serious trouble because that would mean.....

most talented Dolphins < least talented Patriot !
So let's get real now, all it really means is...

Least talented Dolphins WR < least talented Patriot WR.

I think we already knew that anyway.
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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2012, 01:08:46 pm »

As for the source, the "Bandits" are legit.  They are "superfans" and have gone as far as doing commercials for the team.  Of course that doesn't make them reputable news source, but they reported (in a separate tweet) that he saw it from Chad's fiance from some talk show in NY.

Take it for what it's worth.

https://twitter.com/DolFanBandits

Then this:
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Coach Philbin confirmed that there was a "recent" workout with free agent Chad Ochocinco.

AND - On June 10, Chad himself tweeted several posts about being in Miami...
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« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2012, 01:24:57 pm »

Is there a current #85 on the roster?

If so, I hope that guy is a dick and won't sell it to Chad. Evil
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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2012, 01:45:34 pm »

Is there a current #85 on the roster?

If so, I hope that guy is a dick and won't sell it to Chad. Evil

Rishard Matthews, one of the late round draftees, currently has it.
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« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2012, 03:02:46 pm »

Yes, I did see later on that the workout was indeed today.
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« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2012, 03:10:33 pm »

It's my understanding that "talent" was never an issue with him in NE. He never go the playbook. He and Brady were never on the same page. That was it. If he wasn't talented they wouldn't have given him over a season to figure said playbook out. He's likely going to be a Dolphin; several players- notably Reggie Bush- have stated they'd like him in Miami because they need a WR to fill Marshall's shoes. I get that some o you guys want a squeaky clean Beaver Cleaver bunch of guys on the field and hated Marshall for his antics while he was there. If that's the route Miami goes, passing over talent because they're not saints off the field, be ready for more of the same as they've had since Marino retired. How many "character" guys have they passed on who became outstanding players? At this point I will take a Superbowl and guys with multiple suspensions over 50s sitcom family and another 6-7 win season. -EK
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« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2012, 04:03:58 pm »

Maybe its me but I don't recall Chad having many off the field problems.  Just antics and what he considers "fun" like TD celebrations, etc.  I don't think he's a bad guy, or a thug, off the field.
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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2012, 04:11:05 pm »

Chad never had any off field problems up here at all.  Everyone liked him a lot.  It wasn't uncommon for him to show up at I-Hop and, as he was leaving, pay for everyone's breakfast who was there.  Talk radio guys up here seemed distressed about Chad; they wanted to hate him because of production on the field and couldn't because of his personality off the field.

He seems to be a good guy, hard worker.  I wouldn't mind having him in town if he can play.
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2012, 05:07:40 pm »

I get that some o you guys want a squeaky clean Beaver Cleaver bunch of guys on the field and hated Marshall for his antics while he was there.
And I get that you don't think much of the WR's on the team, but why is your opinion any more valid then anyone else? Ocho Cinco has a shot at making the team certainly, but I don't give him much chance at being the starter for game 1 or even a major contributor at any point in the season. If he couldn't learn the playbook in NE, what makes you think he can come in to Miami and learn theirs? They've already installed the offense, he's gonna be behind and he's gonna have to play catch up on the playbook and we've already seen that's not really his forte. Talent alone doesn't get you very far in the NFL. You have to know the playbook, especially in a west coast offense. It's not a great fit for 85. I doubt they even sign him.
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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2012, 05:46:42 pm »

Chad never had any off field problems up here at all. 

His soon to be wife is bat-s#it crazy though! Always in the press, always fighting or being sued. Her reality show "Basketball Wives" has showcased her going looney and fighting constantly and always being involved with the police non stop. And her and her family LIVE in Miami!! It will be constant drama and headlines!
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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2012, 05:46:58 pm »

Miami's playbook will be vastly less complex for a receiver to digest than NE's.  It shouldn't be much work with almost an entire off season to get accustomed to it.
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« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2012, 05:50:18 pm »

If true than the Dolphins are in serious trouble because that would mean.....

most talented Dolphins < least talented Patriot !

Chad's issues with the Patriots had nothing to do with his talent!    No one has ever questioned his talent, even now.  For whatever reasons he could not learn the playbook... maybe too much time in one system or a underlying problem that he was able to cover up with his talent in Cincy!
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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2012, 06:37:18 pm »

   No one has ever questioned his talent, even now.  

Really? There are some people in this thread doing it.
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« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2012, 07:22:16 pm »

It's my understanding that "talent" was never an issue with him in NE. He never go the playbook. He and Brady were never on the same page. That was it. If he wasn't talented they wouldn't have given him over a season to figure said playbook out. He's likely going to be a Dolphin; several players- notably Reggie Bush- have stated they'd like him in Miami because they need a WR to fill Marshall's shoes. I get that some o you guys want a squeaky clean Beaver Cleaver bunch of guys on the field and hated Marshall for his antics while he was there. If that's the route Miami goes, passing over talent because they're not saints off the field, be ready for more of the same as they've had since Marino retired. How many "character" guys have they passed on who became outstanding players? At this point I will take a Superbowl and guys with multiple suspensions over 50s sitcom family and another 6-7 win season. -EK

    
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« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2012, 07:47:06 pm »

And I get that you don't think much of the WR's on the team, but why is your opinion any more valid then anyone else? Ocho Cinco has a shot at making the team certainly, but I don't give him much chance at being the starter for game 1 or even a major contributor at any point in the season. If he couldn't learn the playbook in NE, what makes you think he can come in to Miami and learn theirs? They've already installed the offense, he's gonna be behind and he's gonna have to play catch up on the playbook and we've already seen that's not really his forte. Talent alone doesn't get you very far in the NFL. You have to know the playbook, especially in a west coast offense. It's not a great fit for 85. I doubt they even sign him.

Well, he isn't going to have to catch up far, because it doesn't matter how well you know hte playbook if you have no talent. The receivers Miami has are not only not as fast or talented, but apparently the dropped passes thing wasn't just a Brandon Marshall issue- it's the whole team. "coach Joe Philbin said he and offensive coordinator Mike Sherman are concerned about the number of dropped passes by the receivers, tight ends and running backs through the first seven OTA sessions." http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2012/06/11/miami-dolphins-practice-update-joe-philbin-not-happy-with-number-of-drops/

So who do you think is a better option- someone who can run every route perfectly but never hold on to a ball or someone who takes longer to learn the playbook but is a 6 time Pro Bowler and has the talent to hold on to the rock? Doubt they sign him if you want. This thread also said I was dumb to listen to reports that they were even talking to him.
Miami NEEDS someone to take Marshall's spot. I don't think some of you understand how important it is to have a big time WR that forces a team to keep a safety 15 to 20 yds back off the line to help out the corner. With the group of WRs Miami has- even in a WCO- the safety is staying in the box, giving the D an extra UNBLOCKED runstopper or extra blitzer on pass plays. Do you think it was just coincidental that about the same time Marshall's numbers started going up and his drops started going down, Bush's numbers improved? Marshall's presence helped the running game and if they do not get a guy that forces teams to play the deep ball, D's will use safetys to blitz and stuff the box on run plays and Miami's offense will be worse than last year, not better. You don't really believe that massive off-season acquisition Naanee is the answer do you? -EK
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