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« Reply #75 on: June 12, 2012, 12:13:46 pm »

I think they signed him so he could teach the Dolphins the Patriots' playbook.
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« Reply #76 on: June 12, 2012, 12:23:59 pm »

I think they signed him so he could teach the Dolphins the Patriots' playbook.

LOL.  Be kinda hard as he never learned it. 

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« Reply #77 on: June 12, 2012, 12:24:59 pm »

I was speaking about last season and for most of the offseason... they could have let him go at any point last yr but, they didn't!  They initially planned on keeping him this yr with working a new deal otherwise why work the deal?
And yet New England went out and signed several other FA WR's and cut Chad. What exactly does that tell you? I'm sorry, but it tells me they realized that Chad wasn't working out in New England and that's with Wes Walker, Tom Brady, Gronkowski etc as team mates. Is he an upgrade for Miami at WR over their 3rd or 4th best WR, yes he probably is, but I still wouldn't have done it.
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« Reply #78 on: June 12, 2012, 12:50:10 pm »

And why, exactly, can we not make the same series of excuses for Brandon Marshall?

Miami traded away Brandon Marshall for a pack of gum...

A 6th round pick is a pack of gum. A pair of 3rd round picks are at least a large pizza and a 12-pack of Pepsi. Please refer to the international socio-culinary reference guide for future food comparisons.

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« Reply #79 on: June 12, 2012, 12:52:28 pm »

Not to say Chad and Randy Moss are anything alike.. but, I remember the yr Moss had with the Raiders and people saying he was all washed up!  Fast forward the Pats pick him up and he has some good yrs with them...
Yes, switching to a team with a future HOFer at QB can do wonders for a receiver's career.

Hey, which team did Ochocinco play for last year, again?
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« Reply #80 on: June 12, 2012, 12:55:39 pm »

A 6th round pick is a pack of gum. A pair of 3rd round picks are at least a large pizza and a 12-pack of Pepsi. Please refer to the international socio-culinary reference guide for future food comparisons.

With Pepperoni!
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« Reply #81 on: June 12, 2012, 12:57:49 pm »

2012 is not a playoff year for the Dolphins, it's a rebuilding year. When you are rebuilding you don't need guys like Chad Ocho Cinco posting crap on twitter. You just don't.

Personally I'd rather see Miami give the young guys a shot, we have like 10 WR's already on the roster, we really needed another one, especially an older, fading WR that talks too much? No, we don't NEED him,

EXACTLY!!  I'd rather see them find a diamond in the rough with one of the young guys.
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« Reply #82 on: June 12, 2012, 05:40:26 pm »

It's only a 1 year deal and if he stinks in camp (which is very very possible) they can cut him and its no harm no foul.

Ochocinco brings a circus type atmosphere and drama with him. But its not anywhere near the level of Brandon Marshall.  Ochocinco is on an upcoming reality show on VH1 getting married to his crazy girlfriend. He just finished guest appearances on his wife's reality show "basketball wives" where he was on a bunch of times. He will be on HBO Hard Knocks reality show. The guy's focus is on life after football more than current football. And his soon to be wife is a nut-job and a half. She is throwing wine bottles at people's heads in restaurants on the verge of always being arrested for assault, in legit fist fights all the time in public and such. So the next time she goes bat-shit crazy the headline will read "Wife of Miami Dolphins WR fights  blah blah blah..." or "Wife of Miami Dolphins WR is suing....blah blah blah." Whatever! Petty stuff, but always in the headlines. I mean that will be the headline because she is always in some sort of shit, constantly.

But  Brandon's issues are far more serious than Chad's, so you can't compare the two. The best way to describe it is Brandon's "issues" outside football get him on the police blotter and front page of the newspaper for serious crimes. While Chad's "issues" outside football get him on TMZ. Big difference.

I don't have a huge issue with the signing. But if you are going to sign an old WR on his last legs why not sign Plaxico instead? He is coming off a decent season, has stayed clean since being out of jail, he is bigger and probably more of an asset with his size as a player these days, he brings "less drama", and is more of a "threat" on the field as he was decent last year. While Chad is coming off a horrible season, brings reality TV cameras with him at all times, and you have to question if he even is motivated a bit for football.

Chad can win a spot like most everyone else. I think if its close between him and another young WR that they go with the kid because long-term Ochocinco has no future in Miami while the kid obviously does.
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« Reply #83 on: June 12, 2012, 06:06:04 pm »

I wouldn't be surprised if Miami eventually brings in Plaxico too!    I was watching NFL network and Woody was saying Miami should bring in T.O also!  That was crazy... he made good points but that would really be a three ring circus!
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« Reply #84 on: June 12, 2012, 06:08:30 pm »

Chad can win a spot like most everyone else. I think if its close between him and another young WR that they go with the kid because long-term Ochocinco has no future in Miami while the kid obviously does.
This. This is why I don't like the signing. Let some up and coming WR have a shot at the roster spot over a fading WR. Build towards the future. Ochocinco makes sense in New England where he might be able to help them win the superbowl, he doesn't make sense in Miami where maybe he helps you win 1 meaningless game.
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« Reply #85 on: June 12, 2012, 06:09:06 pm »

I wouldn't be surprised if Miami eventually brings in Plaxico too!    I was watching NFL network and Woody was saying Miami should bring in T.O also!  That was crazy... he made good points but that would really be a three ring circus!

Bringing in a BUNCH of OLD WR's is counterproductive to the rebuilding they are doing at QB, o-line, RB,  and elsewhere on the roster.  It makes no sense. To give 1 guy (ocho) a shot to make the team and see if he has anything left, OK. To bring in another is just plain silly and stupid.
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« Reply #86 on: June 12, 2012, 06:26:39 pm »

I think everyone is over reacting to the Chad signing!   He just brings a veteran to the group and experience... he's always been known as a good route runner and that's something they're prolly using him to help teach the young receivers we have on the roster...
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« Reply #87 on: June 13, 2012, 01:20:34 pm »

925k no signing bonus,no guaranteed money upfront...Fully guaranteed contract week 1 of the season,Steep incentives could push it to 2 Mil..
Via twitter Ben Volin Ocho also got $0 signing bonus and $0 guaranteed. But full $925k salary is guaranteed if he is on Week 1 roster

The two million incentive Via Peter King Tuesday morning QB
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« Reply #88 on: June 13, 2012, 02:01:09 pm »

I think everyone is over reacting to the Chad signing!   He just brings a veteran to the group and experience... he's always been known as a good route runner and that's something they're prolly using him to help teach the young receivers we have on the roster...
Really? You really think they brought in Chad, signed him for zero guaranteed and zero bonus and made his contract fully guaranteed if he makes the roster and heavily incentive based, just so that he could teach the younger guys how to run the routes in an offense that he hasn't learned, so that they could cut him prior to the season? I don't think so. What's wrong with Davone Bess or Brian Hartline teaching the young guys how to run routes?

They signed Chad in the hopes that he'll play and be better than the 4th or 5th WR on the roster without him and they may be right about that, but he also might take up a spot on the roster that if Chad weren't there may have went to a BJ Cunningham, a Rishard Matthews, a Jeff Fuller or a Clyde Gates. Personally I'd rather have one of those guys for 2012 and beyond rather than Chad for 2012.
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« Reply #89 on: June 13, 2012, 02:23:00 pm »

I wouldn't. Those guys suck. Period. They either never got on the field for meaningful time last year or were 6th or undrafted. And from OTA reports, they can't seem to hang on to the ball even if they run the route correctly. You want THAT over a multi time pro bowler?? -EK
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