Ocho Cinco?

[Diehard_Dolfan]

I wouldn't. Those guys suck. Period. They either never got on the field for meaningful time last year or were 6th or undrafted. And from OTA reports, they can't seem to hang on to the ball even if they run the route correctly. You want THAT over a multi time pro bowler?? -EK

The Dolphins fans are a funny lot...they complain about everything no matter what moves are made! 

[MikeO]

925k no signing bonus,no guaranteed money upfront...Fully guaranteed contract week 1 of the season,Steep incentives could push it to 2 Mil..
Via twitter Ben Volin Ocho also got $0 signing bonus and $0 guaranteed. But full $925k salary is guaranteed if he is on Week 1 roster

The two million incentive Via Peter King Tuesday morning QB

Yep he got paid like an old scrub WR which he is. And he will have to earn everything he gets. If he does, god bless him and happy he is on the team and its a great signing at a great price. If he sucks (like he did in NE) then cut his ass and lose nothing.

WIN-WIN!

[MikeO]

The Dolphins fans are a funny lot...they complain about everything no matter what moves are made! 

I wouldn't say Dolphins fans, I would change that to "certain people."

[el diablo]

The Dolphins fans are a funny lot...they complain about everything no matter what moves are made! 

It's not complaining.  Its an attempt to gain understanding from a franchise that seems to be rebuilding, without rebuilding.

[Pappy13]

I wouldn't. Those guys suck. Period. They either never got on the field for meaningful time last year or were 6th or undrafted. And from OTA reports, they can't seem to hang on to the ball even if they run the route correctly. You want THAT over a multi time pro bowler?? -EK

Yes, I'd rather have a guy that might be a future pro bowler over a guy who WAS a pro bowler but clearly ISN'T anymore, especially for this team. Chad's 34. Will he be the oldest guy on the roster? Again, he makes sense for a veteran team that needs a WR to get them to the superbowl which is what New England was hoping for, but he didn't even work for them. He doesn't make sense for a young rebuilding team unless it's important to you to win 8 games rather than 7.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

Yes, I'd rather have a guy that might be a future pro bowler over a guy who WAS a pro bowler but clearly ISN'T anymore, especially for this team. Chad's 34. Will he be the oldest guy on the roster? Again, he makes sense for a veteran team that needs a WR to get them to the superbowl which is what New England was hoping for, but he didn't even work for them. He doesn't make sense for the Dolphins unless it's important to you to win 8 games rather than 7.

Do you seriously think that Philbin is not aware of any of the facts you just stated?  It's his life... he's been coaching a long time!  If they brought him in they brought him in for a reason... they said they were happy with the receivers they had. Obviously, something has made them re-hatch that idea... Someone like Chad can make a difference on young receivers... they see his work ethic and pick up on it!  Everyone has said he's a hard working guy in practice including during his time in New England.   

Wait to see what takes place... stop trying to figure out what's going on!  It's not like you can do anything about it anyway!

[Pappy13]

Do you seriously think that Philbin is not aware of any of the facts you just stated?  It's his life... he's been coaching a long time!  If they brought him in they brought him in for a reason... they said they were happy with the receivers they had. Obviously, something has made them re-hatch that idea... Someone like Chad can make a difference on young receivers... they see his work ethic and pick up on it!  Everyone has said he's a hard working guy in practice including during his time in New England.   

Wait to see what takes place... stop trying to figure out what's going on!  It's not like you can do anything about it anyway!

All I said was is that I don't agree with the signing and I've tried to explain my reasons why. I don't expect anyone to agree with me, I'm not trying to convince you I'm right, I'm only trying to explain my thought process. I don't think Chad's going to hurt the teams chances or anything, in fact I doubt he'll have much impact at all and we'll all soon forget about the signing, but I wouldn't do it.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

All I said was is that I don't agree with the signing and I've tried to explain my reasons why. I don't expect anyone to agree with me, I'm not trying to convince you I'm right, I'm only trying to explain my thought process. I don't think Chad's going to hurt the teams chances or anything, in fact I doubt he'll have much impact at all and we'll all soon forget about the signing, but I wouldn't do it.

A lot of people in pro football with much more knowledge than you or I feel it's a good move... they are aware just like you and I that Chad is at the end of his career.  But, I remember Irving Fryer and Mark Ingram both coming here and having productive time when no one thought they'd be worth much either..

I'm just saying...  Even Lamar Thomas came here and provided us with some useful time late in his career!

[Pappy13]

A lot of people in pro football with much more knowledge than you or I feel it's a good move...

Even knowledgeable people can be wrong sometimes.

they are aware just like you and I that Chad is at the end of his career.

They're aware of it, but I don't think they are really factoring it into their thinking. They are thinking short term it's a good move and it may very well be a good short term move, but I don't think it will help in the long run and I'd rather hold onto a young player that might help you win games for years and years over a guy that might have 1 good year left in the tank.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

Even knowledgeable people can be wrong sometimes.
They're aware of it, but I don't think they are really factoring it into their thinking. They are thinking short term it's a good move and it may very well be a good short term move, but I don't think it will help in the long run and I'd rather hold onto a young player that might help you win games for years and years over a guy that might have 1 good year left in the tank.

What you're missing is... it's easy to destroy a young players confidence!  There's a reason our receiving core has not had anyone step up!  Wallace, Moore, and Pruit have been around for yrs... they have talent but for some reason they aren't stepping up!  You can't keep hoping that they'll somehow get it and suddenly start producing...  Chad is only PIP/PD basic insurance... he's not expected to be full coverage!  He's here in hopes that he can help a WR core that obviously needs more time to develop than most thought...

[EKnight]

Yes, I'd rather have a guy that might be a future pro bowler over a guy who WAS a pro bowler but clearly ISN'T anymore, especially for this team. Chad's 34. Will he be the oldest guy on the roster? Again, he makes sense for a veteran team that needs a WR to get them to the superbowl which is what New England was hoping for, but he didn't even work for them. He doesn't make sense for a young rebuilding team unless it's important to you to win 8 games rather than 7.

Really? Which one of Miami's other receivers is a future pro bowler? Which one strikes fear in the hearts of opposing Ds? WORST ARGUMENT EVER! -EK

[EKnight]

I wouldn't say Dolphins fans, I would change that to "certain people."

Not unlike the people who bitched incessantly about Henne, Moore, Sparano, Marshall, and every move the offense made for two years while giving all the team's success to a middle of the road defense?

In case no one has figured it out, I LOVE the Ochocinco pick up, so how is that complaining about "everything?" -EK

[Pappy13]

Really? Which one of Miami's other receivers is a future pro bowler?

I don't know, maybe none of them are, but I don't believe that Ochocinco is either, so nothing gained by signing him.

Which one strikes fear in the hearts of opposing Ds? WORST ARGUMENT EVER! -EK

It's been a LONG time since Ochocinco struck fear into opposing D's. Again, nothing gained by signing him. If we were getting the Ochocinco from 3 years ago you *might* have an argument, but that was 3 seasons ago and 2 teams ago, both of which have seen that he doesn't have what he had at one time and have replaced him with younger or better players. I think Miami should try to do the same.

[masterfins]

Yep he got paid like an old scrub WR which he is. And he will have to earn everything he gets. If he does, god bless him and happy he is on the team and its a great signing at a great price. If he sucks (like he did in NE) then cut his ass and lose nothing.

WIN-WIN!

I get that the money part is no big deal.  BUT, this will NOT be a win-win situation when Ocho starts detracting from pre season preparations with exploits of his night time excursions to the various south beach establishments.  With the contract offered Miami is pretty much saying we don't think you will be here week #1, and Ocho agreed to it for the publicity of Hard Knocks.  This is exactly why I was against the Hard Knocks show featuring Miami.

[Brian Fein]

^^ I think you're very very off-base here.

You hate the guy cause he might go clubbing?  And somehow his night-time clubbing will be a distraction to the team?  Then, quite frankly, the coaching staff isn't doing their job.  You think the team signed him to make Hard Knocks more interesting?  Again, sorry, no one makes football decisions based on TV ratings.

I think you're really worried that he "might do this" or he will be "a distraction" when in fact, he might just be there to play football and accepted the deal because he's from Miami, and has publicly stated in the past that he grew up a Dolphins' fan and wants to play here.  Maybe, JUST MAYBE, he actually wants to play football. *gasp*