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« Reply #105 on: June 14, 2012, 12:12:01 pm »

I don't know, maybe none of them are, but I don't believe that Ochocinco is either, so nothing gained by signing him.
It's been a LONG time since Ochocinco struck fear into opposing D's.

Not to mention he always strikes fear in his own teams OC.  Never know when he will do something stupid that will cost you 15 yards.
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« Reply #106 on: June 14, 2012, 06:12:40 pm »

I get that the money part is no big deal.  BUT, this will NOT be a win-win situation when Ocho starts detracting from pre season preparations with exploits of his night time excursions to the various south beach establishments.  With the contract offered Miami is pretty much saying we don't think you will be here week #1, and Ocho agreed to it for the publicity of Hard Knocks.  This is exactly why I was against the Hard Knocks show featuring Miami.


You are reading way too much into things. If you think the Fins gave a guy a contract knowing they will cut him prior to Week 1 then I think you are reading way too much into things.

They are giving an old WR a chance. If he can still "go" and be somewhat of a player then the Fins can use him. If not he will be cut. If he acts like an ass or acts up, he will be cut and there is little to no cap hit. Miami has nothing to lose here. And if the old WR can re-gain his form they get a decent (not great) player at a cheap price.
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« Reply #107 on: June 15, 2012, 09:37:04 am »

^^ His contract may keep him in line knowing that he's one act of foolishness away from being dismissed.  His career is over if that happens.
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« Reply #108 on: June 15, 2012, 11:07:45 am »

When I look at the Wr's still available,then factor a guy like Reggie Wayne (Same age) got 3 yr 17.5 mil..I sort of see Ocho as a bit of a steal....
He's not T.O,Plaxico,or Braylon Edwards...So for me,It's bonus points... Cheesy

I'm always in favor of getting a bunch of unknown young guys,and let them fight to be a starter...
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« Reply #109 on: June 15, 2012, 11:14:22 am »

^^ I think you're very very off-base here.

You hate the guy cause he might go clubbing?  And somehow his night-time clubbing will be a distraction to the team?  Then, quite frankly, the coaching staff isn't doing their job.  You think the team signed him to make Hard Knocks more interesting?  Again, sorry, no one makes football decisions based on TV ratings.

I think you're really worried that he "might do this" or he will be "a distraction" when in fact, he might just be there to play football and accepted the deal because he's from Miami, and has publicly stated in the past that he grew up a Dolphins' fan and wants to play here.  Maybe, JUST MAYBE, he actually wants to play football. *gasp*

I don't hate the guy, he's just not what Miami needs.  For once lets go all in on rebuilding the team!!  Not a half a$$ed attempt to rebuild while keeping some fans happy with a few wins.  I think Miami has made some great progress with picks and aquisitions the last two years, and I think with their schedule they have wild card potential this year.  But every time Ocho is on the field it takes away from developing a possible starter that could be a LONG TERM help to the team.
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« Reply #110 on: June 15, 2012, 11:20:33 am »

^^ His contract may keep him in line knowing that he's one act of foolishness away from being dismissed.  His career is over if that happens.

Once he makes it through week #1 he's got his money.  Then he can do what he wants, and Miami would again look foolish to cut a guy mid season after paying him close to a million.  As for his career being over, do you really think there is more of a football career left???
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« Reply #111 on: June 15, 2012, 11:34:05 am »

WHy are you so dead-set certain convinced there's nothing left? -EK
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« Reply #112 on: June 15, 2012, 01:57:59 pm »

Agreed.

Let the guy get on the field and then make those statements.  It's not like Miami has lost out on top flight FA wideouts BECAUSE of this signing.  I'm not understanding the risk, nor the outrage.
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« Reply #113 on: June 15, 2012, 02:16:24 pm »

WHy are you so dead-set certain convinced there's nothing left? -EK

I'm not saying there's nothing left, in fact I think he's probably got a few game winning performances in him.  BUT, IMO he's not a long term benefit.
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« Reply #114 on: June 15, 2012, 02:17:41 pm »

^^ The good thing is: he doesn't have to be.  He's 20% of the receiving corps.  You'll have 2 guys: Bess and Hartline, add Ochocinco for depth, and then 2 youngsters.  What's wrong with that?
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« Reply #115 on: June 15, 2012, 02:23:03 pm »

^^^Because everytime Ocho is on the field it's that much less playing time to see if the youngsters are NFL material or not.  Instead of having Ocho win two games THIS YEAR, I'd rather see the youngsters play and see if THEY can win two games for the Fins.
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« Reply #116 on: June 15, 2012, 02:27:18 pm »

Two or three games last year may have put Miami in the playoffs. Yeah, I'd hate to do that, instead of the team building up below average receivers. What was I thinking?? He doesn't have to be stellar for ten years. 3 years of solid play from him would be enough to build the rest of the WRs and win at the same time. It amazes me how many people were in favor of signing a 36 year old QB on the decline of his career, and who hasn't been healthy in three years, but somehow Ocho is getting all this hate. -EK
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« Reply #117 on: June 15, 2012, 02:45:02 pm »

Two or three games last year may have put Miami in the playoffs. Yeah, I'd hate to do that, instead of the team building up below average receivers. What was I thinking?? He doesn't have to be stellar for ten years. 3 years of solid play from him would be enough to build the rest of the WRs and win at the same time. It amazes me how many people were in favor of signing a 36 year old QB on the decline of his career, and who hasn't been healthy in three years, but somehow Ocho is getting all this hate. -EK
2 wins wouldn't have, not sure if 3 would have either and I'm not even sure that Marshall would account for a 3 game difference in the standings this year let alone Ochocinco. So if we are going to throw out crazy talk, then why stop there, why not believe that B.J. Cunningham or Rishard Matthews or Jeff Fuller could end up being rookie of the year and account for that 3 game swing? Is that any more far fetched then Ochocinco doing it? I think not.

And I think you should go take a look at Garrard's numbers from 2010. If Garrard can put up the same numbers this year for Miami that he put up in 2010 especially since he's now healthy, then Miami probably WILL make the playoffs this year. You CERTAINLY can't say that for Ochocinco last year when he was healthy and playing with one of the best offenses in football. The blinders you have on here is pretty astounding.
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« Reply #118 on: June 15, 2012, 02:58:39 pm »

Blinders? You've got to be kidding. Connect the dots- Philbin came out on record and stated the current receivers couldn't catch anything that was thrown to them in OTAs, then suddenly Ocho is signed? It is beyond far-fetched to even think a WR who can't catch could be rookie of the year. -EK
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« Reply #119 on: June 15, 2012, 03:07:29 pm »

I'm sure the rookies will get their fair share of playing time.  It just makes sure that Clyde Gates isn't our #3 wideout when we are running a WCO in the no-huddle.  Its important to have options.
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