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« on: August 17, 2012, 03:58:15 pm »

I'm torn on this issue...I've said I think he can do it,but I'm not sure I want it....

It get's brought up about recent successes of Qb's that start from week one.The thing I've noticed,most had good running games to protect them...

Sanchez - Jones,Greene,Washington
Flacco - Rice,Mcgehee,McClain
Ryan - Tuner,Norwood
Roethlisberger - Bettis,Staley,Haynes
Cam Newton -Williams,Stewart
Dalton - Benson,Scott
Palmer - Rudi Johnson,Watson

Stafford- Didn't
Gabbert - Did and still sucked Cheesy

I'm not real sure about Bush,Thomas,Miller...I think this is what is what I'm torn about....Can Tannehill,not get killed, reamed by the fans,without a good running game..Those are my thoughts,and concerns...

Do you want Tannehill to be the starting QB week 1?

Modified to add, Palmer,and I couldn't remember Daltons name...
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 04:08:46 pm »

If the choice is between Tannehill and Moore, yes. I have not been impressed with Moore, I don't think Miami is going anywhere with him as the QB and I see nothing to be gained from him being the QB this year.

Let me ask you this, would you rather have Tannehill play the whole year, be 6-10 where we win the last 3 games of the year where Tannehill is actually starting to play pretty well or have Moore play the whole year where he's up and down, be 10-6 and get smoked in a wild card game? Personally I'd rather see Tannehill the whole year and watch him progress and hope that Miami can find him a stud WR in the 2013 draft.
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 04:11:44 pm »

I think in this day and age, if you draft someone with a top 10 pick and he isn't playing week 1, you had a horrible draft.  

Yes, I know... 30 years ago the Dolphins drafted a QB late in the first round and sat him a few games at the start of the season and it worked out for them.  

But:

1. He was drafted at the bottom of the draft not the top.
2. It was 30 years ago.
3. There is absolutely no reason to believe Danny would have been a bad QB had he started week 1, instead of waiting.

If he isn't ready to help the team week 1, than it was a mistake to draft him and you should have drafted a different position.  
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 04:18:51 pm »

I think in this day and age, if you draft someone with a top 10 pick and he isn't playing week 1, you had a horrible draft.  
I won't go that far. Rarely does a single player make/break an entire draft, however I do agree that if you are a top 10 pick you should be helping the team by at the very least the middle of the year. I don't think thats unreasonable at all. On the other hand, I don't expect anyone to be a pro-bowl player as a rookie even if you are a top 10 pick and if you're not it doesn't mean you were a bust and it was a bad pick. If in 2 or 3 years you are no longer on the team, THEN it was a bad pick. Yes I'm talking about you Tedd Ginn Jr.
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 04:21:16 pm »

Matt Moore hurt himself a bit this week with his mouth. When Matt Moore says  in an interview he is using this season as an audition for other teams around the league....he isn't exactly giving off the "team leader" vibe you want from your starting QB in August. Kind of a "ME-ME" vibe.

Now, I know what he meant and what he did say is 100% true because he isn't coming back to Miami next year. But you don't say it in the press. It just comes off as really really bad.

That's why if Garrard's knee is better by the final preseason game where he can play a bit then I think its Tannehill/Garrard this year. And you cut Moore or trade him for a 7th rounder or to a team like GB who is 7 deep at WR but has no backup QB.

Tonight will determine Matt Moore's future. While preseason games mean next to nothing, if Tannehill doesn't look god awful and just holds his own then Moore will either be our #2 or gone in a couple weeks.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2012, 04:25:17 pm »

I think in this day and age, if you draft someone with a top 10 pick and he isn't playing week 1, you had a horrible draft.  



I agree with that for EVERY position except QB. QB's are just different. You grade them different, you draft them different, you bring them along different. As was said at draft time, the league has changed so much that 2nd round graded QB's go in Rd 1 now. 3rd and 4th round graded QB's go in Round 2. And so on, the position is so friggin important that everyone has been pushed up the board over the past few years.
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 07:30:13 pm »

Matt Moore hurt himself a bit this week with his mouth. When Matt Moore says  in an interview he is using this season as an audition for other teams around the league....he isn't exactly giving off the "team leader" vibe you want from your starting QB in August. Kind of a "ME-ME" vibe.


From what I saw (which is just one article) Moore is not quoted. Those were the authors words.
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 08:10:26 pm »

From what I saw (which is just one article) Moore is not quoted. Those were the authors words.

I just re-read the article and there is no direct quote from Moore. But no newspaper guy would risk is job if it wasn't said in some way and Moore never came out and said he didn't say it either after the article ran. Here is what the article said....

Either way, Moore knows this: If he has a future as a starting quarterback, it won’t be in Miami. Moore conceded Tuesday that he’s using whatever action he sees this year as an audition for his next team.



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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 08:22:03 pm »

How would Moore "come out and say" that he didn't state something that was never presented as a quote?

It might be as simple as the reporter asking him, "Given that Tannehill was drafted to be the franchise QB, do you see this year as being a chance to show your skills to the rest of the league?"  If he says, "Sure, I mean, I've enjoyed my time here, but I think I have what it takes to be a starter in this league, if not here then somewhere else," why should he have to walk that back?

At the end of the day, when the Dolphins have plainly shown that Moore has no hope to be the franchise QB in Miami, why should he act like it's Miami Or Bust for him?  The NFL is a business, and loyalty is a two-way street.  If the front office expected him to be a "team leader," they shouldn't have brought in Garrard.
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 08:46:10 pm »

I'd rather be 10-6 with Moore than risk "damaging" Tannehill and going 6-10.

What's the rush? He's going to play in the future. Why do you need to rush him to the field?
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 08:47:10 pm »

If/when Tannehill outplays Moore, you have to start him week 1.

Unless, Garrard is healthy and ready to go by that point. (then they can battle for that #1 job)
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2012, 09:04:24 pm »

If/when Tannehill outplays Moore, you have to start him week 1.

Unless, Garrard is healthy and ready to go by that point. (then they can battle for that #1 job)

Tannehill just had a very good drive that resulted in a touchdown! That is big.  I don't care what the final score of the game is, unless Tannehill comes out for another series and is god awful that is the story of the game. He led a touchdown drive and converted passes and at least 1 on 3rd down to keep the drive alive.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2012, 09:07:07 pm »

Tannehill won over Trent Dilfer with that last TD drive lol

His Tweet: https://twitter.com/TDESPN/status/236629467492130816
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2012, 09:15:48 pm »

What's the rush?
Oh, I don't know 10 years worth of futility? Why wait?
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2012, 09:31:48 pm »

Let me ask you this, would you rather have Tannehill play the whole year, be 6-10 where we win the last 3 games of the year where Tannehill is actually starting to play pretty well or have Moore play the whole year where he's up and down, be 10-6 and get smoked in a wild card game? Personally I'd rather see Tannehill the whole year and watch him progress and hope that Miami can find him a stud WR in the 2013 draft.
That's hindsight 20/20,spilled milk scenario,has nothing to do with starting week one....We're 10-6 making the playoffs,I'm not whining that we didn't play the Rookie...it wasn't all on the QB,alot of things really worked for us to be 10-6 IMO..That's a whole different discussion...

I think it's about expectations,and mine are pretty low..

Mike mentioned in the  Hard knocks thread about the coaching staff...I think it's a great point,The coaching staff isn't talking running the ball,playing good defense grinding out 13-10,17-14 wins...

Modified to finish my thought...I'm confident that the Coaching staff will do what's best for the Miami Dolphins,and Ryan Tannehill.

The best thing For me so far, watching the game online...The scoring drive..Tannehill,saw the blitz,changed the protection, audibles then ran the play...Hurry up most of that drive...Unfortunately we were down 17-0... Tons of dump offs early,very little running holes.Still hasn't changed my opinion really,but I liked seeing that out of the rookie..
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