Do you want Ryan Tannehill to start week 1?

[MikeO]

That's hindsight 20/20,spilled milk scenario,has nothing to do with starting week one....We're 10-6 making the playoffs,I'm not whining that we didn't play the Rookie...it wasn't all on the QB,alot of things really worked for us to be 10-6 IMO..That's a whole different discussion...

I think it's about expectations,and mine are pretty low..

Mike mentioned in the  Hard knocks thread about the coaching staff...I think it's a great point,The coaching staff isn't talking running the ball,playing good defense grinding out 13-10,17-14 wins...

The best thing For me so far, watching the game online...The scoring drive..Tannehill,saw the blitz,changed the protection, audibles then ran the play...Hurry up most of that drive...Unfortunately we were down 17-0... Tons of dump offs early,very little running holes.Still hasn't changed my opinion really,but I liked seeing that out of the rookie..

Agree on most of the points. Look its preseason football, and its Week 2 and once again there is no gameplanning for this game.  The Fins sat a lot of guys on defense for injuries and such so it is impossible to judge anything about the defense. No Wake, Burnett, and Dansby makes it impossible to gauge anything on that side of the ball. So no sense in even judging anyone on that side of the ball.  Like I said its a glorified practice (at least on defense) when the Fins rolled that unit onto the field tonight.

On offense,  Fasano had a bad drop. Jonathan Martin was terrible tonight, needs work. The O-line overall was sloppy. But Tannehill knows what to do but has little help right now.  He converted 3 THIRD downs on his touchdown drive. He had pressure all night in his face. 

The fact Tannehill played the entire first half tells me the coaches have probably made up their mind. Start Tannehill this year. Let him take his lumps. It will be very ugly at times but the long-term payoff will be worth it!

[Pappy13]

That's hindsight 20/20,spilled milk scenario,has nothing to do with starting week one....We're 10-6 making the playoffs,I'm not whining that we didn't play the Rookie...it wasn't all on the QB,alot of things really worked for us to be 10-6 IMO..That's a whole different discussion...

I don't think it is. If Tannehill doesn't play the whole year and the Dolphins go 10-6 and are out of the playoffs after the wildcard game, what did you accomplish? Moore won't be coming back in 2013 and you'll be starting from scratch again with Tannehill with absolutely no experience under his belt. And that's really expecting a LOT out of Moore. The more likely scenario with starting Moore game 1 is that Miami is around 2-3 or 2-4 to start the season and people are SCREAMING for Tannehill to play and Philbin is forced to play him. What's the point? To prove that Moore isn't the QB of the future? Most everyone already knows that including Matt Moore.

But the conversation is pretty much moot at this point because even if Moore is like 18-20 for 3 TD's in the 2nd half, I don't think it would make a difference because it would be against 2nd and 3rd string. I thought the fact that they stuck with Tannehill for the whole first half was VERY telling. I'd be willing to bet that Moore only gets about a quarter and then they turn the ball over to Devlin again. Miami is prepared to start the season with Devlin as the 3rd string QB. I'm with MikeO. Barring an injury, Tannehill is starting next week and probably game 1. Would take a minor miracle at this point to change that.

1 Final point after watching the 1st half, don't be shocked when Jeff Fuller makes the roster and either Wallace and/or Marlon Moore don't.

[bsfins]

You asked a hindsight question...Sorry if you don't like my answer...You asked How I'd feel in January in August...

[MikeO]

I'm with MikeO. Barring an injury, Tannehill is starting next week and probably game 1. Would take a minor miracle at this point to change that.

I think so.  I mean if Ryan throws 3 INT's in 3 quarters of play next Friday night that might change! But taking the temperature as of tonight it sure looks like Ryan is very close to locking up the job. Sure he made his mistakes but he wasn't awful and to me is no worse than Matt Moore. And let me be the FIRST to say this now because I have a feeling at some point in the next few months it might be an issue.

IF Ryan Tannehill starts Week 1 of the regular season it doesn't mean he has to start EVERY week this year. Come Week 8 or 9 if Miami is "for all purposes" out of the playoff picture and having a rough year and Tannehill is having issues. They can sit him for a week or two and let him collect himself and just watch. There is no rule that once you start Week 1 you have to start them all. If the lack of offensive talent is hurting him and his play,  there is no sense to see him get beat up week in and week out and sitting him for a couple games isn't the end of the world. Then maybe bring him back late in the year.

[Pappy13]

You asked a hindsight question...Sorry if you don't like my answer...

Sorry you didn't like my question. Speculation isn't usually a problem around here in fact I'd say that's about 75% of the conversations here.

[bsfins]

I'm 99% Tannehill is gonna start this season,and atleast 25-40% of the fans screaming how bad he sucks,and we're doomed the first INT he throws...

[MikeO]

I'm 99% Tannehill is gonna start this season,and atleast 25-40% of the fans screaming how bad he sucks,and we're doomed the first INT he throws...

There are idiot fans everywhere. Just gotta block them out and ignore them.

[EKnight]

He has no business starting yet. He stared down all of his receivers, predictably threw to the exact same spot of the field and had at least four balls batted down at the line. I don't care how many third downs he converted on a meaningless TD drive, you can't ignore the fact that the team had zero first downs for most of the half. You can't ignore he started three for ten. Why is it that you consistently say how these preseason games shouldn't be counted or considered except when the events in them back up your particular point of view? -EK

[EKnight]

Mike these are public forum message boards. The advice was not to never respond, it was to stop attacking personally and getting off topic (you know, like you just did there). If you post something I disagree with, I'm not going to muzzle myself simply because YOU are the one who posts it. I disputed your points. I was at the game. I saw what you saw. For most of the half, Tannehill looked bad. You can't ignore that, but rave about one drive. The drive didn't happen in a vacuum. -EK

[EKnight]

Well I'll tell you right now that's not happening. I was respectful and concise in my post. As usual you took this off topic. I think the whole board can see who the problem really is here, and it's not me debating, it's you always looking for an angle to attack. I'm sure you'll have a response here because you can't NOT have the last word. Prove me right. I'm done debating who's the bigger baby. If you want to debate football and only football that's why I'm here. -EK

[MikeO]

He has no business starting yet. He stared down all of his receivers, predictably threw to the exact same spot of the field and had at least four balls batted down at the line. I don't care how many third downs he converted on a meaningless TD drive, you can't ignore the fact that the team had zero first downs for most of the half. You can't ignore he started three for ten. Why is it that you consistently say how these preseason games shouldn't be counted or considered except when the events in them back up your particular point of view? -EK

1) I never used anything from last night OR last week to come to my opinion. I have said for over a year Matt Moore sucks. I stand by it. Nothing has changed. Therefore I say start Tannehill considering Garrard is hurt currently. Now, if Tannehill throws 3 or 4 INT's next week vs Atlanta, then yeah keep him as the backup and that 3rd perseason game (the important one) might change things for me. But if that doesn't happen next week and he plays like he did last night,  I say start Tannehill. I NEVER USED ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT IN A PRESEASON GAME AS A BASIS FOR ANY OPINION I HAVE!


2) Carolina looks great so their TD drives in the first half aren't meaningless but Tannehill's 2nd quarter TD drive is meaningless? Don't understand the logic.  Makes NO sense! A TD drive is a TD drive. Either they all count or all are meaningless. If it's "meaningless" then don't get worked up over the good  OR the bad! Which has been my stance when it comes to preseason football which I have made over and over again. See we actually agree. EVERYTHING is meaningless in these games. There fore time for all Dolphins fans to back off the ledge!

[Pappy13]

He has no business starting yet. He stared down all of his receivers, predictably threw to the exact same spot of the field and had at least four balls batted down at the line. I don't care how many third downs he converted on a meaningless TD drive, you can't ignore the fact that the team had zero first downs for most of the half. You can't ignore he started three for ten. Why is it that you consistently say how these preseason games shouldn't be counted or considered except when the events in them back up your particular point of view? -EK

So should we start Devlin because Moore was WORSE than Tannehill and that was against backups?

[EKnight]

I'd start Moore or Garrard when he's healthy. Let Tannehill get used to the speed of the NFL, whxih he clearly is not used to yet. -EK

[el diablo]

^^^^ Agreed.

[Pappy13]

I'd start Moore or Garrard when he's healthy. Let Tannehill get used to the speed of the NFL, whxih he clearly is not used to yet. -EK

Garrard is not going to be healthy and Moore is CLEARLY less used to the offense than Tannehill. Let's face it EK you just don't want Tannehill to start, you don't have a good reason why or at least you still haven't said what it is.