good lord we suck

[suck for luck]

That is all.

[mecadonzilla]

Yup. 

[Stinger24]

Offensive line atrocious.
Defense ABSOLUTELY complete trash and no excuses about a couple of subs.
QB we are in trouble if Matty is best we have Tanny is not ready.
WR make the above mentioned spots look good probably the worst  WR corp in the league.
Bottom line we are worse than the field goal fist pump era and that is sad.

[MikeO]

its a long year guys. don't get nervous about a meaningless game on Aug 17th. The Packers lost by 25 to the Browns. Does anyone take that outcome seriously? No. So why take this one seriously!

There might (probably will) be time to be yelling about how the team sucks and this and that but it ain't today. Preseason football is exactly that...preseason football! Cannot take anything away from these games at all.

Just remember last year presason, Chad Henne lit it up vs Carolina. And Newton was 7/14 or 66 yards.   http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=310819015

Did each of their regular seasons mirror what hapened in the preseason!?! Exactly!

[EKnight]

BULL! No more excuses. No more of this, "it's still the preseason" stuff. The secondary is the worsti have ever seen EVER in Miami. When they're not giving up massive plays, they're  completely blowing coverage. When they're not doing that, they're giving up first downs on ridiculous penalties. I was surrounded by Carolina fans who were all saying the same thing- "Cam didn't even have to run at all- he did everything with his arm. Those guys can't cover anybody!" Stop making excuses for the lack of talent on the field. They're horrible, and getting worse, not better. So far this preseason- first team vs. first team, they've been completely embarrassed by QB's from teams that went, what 10-22 last year? Vincent Jackson and Steve Smith were non-factors in the two games, and Miami still got abused. Should have spent some draft picks on that secondary rather than fifty more WRs and RBs. -EK

[Landshark]

This team will need Marino in his prime in order to win six games with that defense.  Holy Mary mother of God.

[Cathal]

I was excited about this year but holy crap does the defense suck (and the offense right behind it). I know it's preseason, but it just looks like a disaster. It's going to be a real long year.

[MikeO]

Back of the ledge people! Back off the ledge!! lol

Preseason football! It doesn't count for a reason. There is a reason the stadiums are more than half empty. Guys with hang nails don't play in games for a reason. Some older guys go half-speed for a reason!

Not saying Miami is playoff bound or will be a .500 team (not saying that at all) but also I am not going to flip out over what happened in a preseason games. If you think Miami is the only team looking like crap in the preseason then watch 5 min of a couple other presason games. Lots of teams are looking horrible right now. Because its the Preseason. Nothing counts. It's pratice. Check out some rookies and bottom of the roster guys to see who sticks and who makes the practice squad and that's about it really.

[Fins4ever]

Admittingly, there has not been much to be positive about. I was hoping Garrard would be the starter and Tannehill could take his time to develop. That ain't happening and RT is the clear choice.

The right side of the O line is still a problem and I think they will regret not paying Winston...I know I do!

The secondary is in friggin shambles and even the run D has looked bad.

About the most positive thing I can say is that no one has gotten killed. lol  

[MikeO]

Admittingly, there has not been much to be positive about. I was hoping Garrard would be the starter and Tannehill could take his time to develop. That ain't happening and RT is the clear choice.

The right side of the O line is still a problem and I think they will regret not paying Winston...I know I do!

On the o-line....

Art Hicks I was never fond of that signing. If you can't start for the Browns o-line I mean seriously. Jake Scott is still available I believe. Miami had him in for 2 visits. Why they didn't take him over someone like Hicks or Steinbech I don't understand. I know its probably a money thing. And I would doubt Miami signs him now. They might wait till after Week 1 when the contracts aren't guaranteed for the year if they feel the o-line is an issue still. But its still just mid-August and these are the first 2 preseason games.

Martin everyone is hitting the panic button on after last night. Coaches don't coach these games to win they coach to see what they got and how players respond to certain situations. Miami won't have games this year where they throw it 58 times and only run it 12 like they did last night. That is coaching to "see stuff" and not to actually try and win a meaningless game. The coaches last night played Martin for 3 quarters and didn't give him any help at all if you re-watch the game. Heard a report on WQAM this morning that the coaches wanted to put the rookie on an island the entire time he played and see how he did and reacted . In "real" games with "game-planning" and such that will never happen. He would have gotten help as no rookie tackle is left alone for an entire game with a 4:1 pass/run ratio as the playcalling.

[el diablo]

No, they don't coach to win. But you play to succeed. What that means is, when you routinely get beat 1 on 1 game planning isnt the problem. Martin wasn't left on an island all night. He looked good when he had help. Problem is, it takes the TE/FB out of the equation when they cant get by with a chip block. In other words, he has bad technique. You cant lunge at defenders. You have to block them. The right side is still a problem. Couple that with a QB that's slow with progressions and its going to be a long year. Period.

[MikeO]

No, they don't coach to win. But you play to succeed. What that means is, when you routinely get beat 1 on 1 game planning isnt the problem. Martin wasn't left on an island all night. He looked good when he had help. Problem is, it takes the TE/FB out of the equation when they cant get by with a chip block. In other words, he has bad technique. You cant lunge at defenders. You have to block them. The right side is still a problem.

Well  I don't agree with everything you said but we agree on one thing, the right side of the o-line might be a problem. Hicks I am no big fan of and Martin is a rookie who will take his lumps before he becomes a solid player. It's a work in progress for the right side of the o-line.

[tubba marxxx]

I love "the sky is falling" comments after 2 preseason games 

[EKnight]

For clarification purposes at what point in the regular season is it acceptable to say, "Good lord, Miami can't cover anyone, they have no receivers, and overall, just suck." I'm not being facetious- honest answer when you believe that it's ok to point out the obvious that several of us see already. -EK

[masterfins]

For clarification purposes at what point in the regular season is it acceptable to say, "Good lord, Miami can't cover anyone, they have no receivers, and overall, just suck." I'm not being facetious- honest answer when you believe that it's ok to point out the obvious that several of us see already. -EK

NEWSFLASH - The secondary sucked last year.  The only reason they weren't shown as so inept last year is because the offense wasn't a scoring power.  When the offense did have a lead, the defense blew it, see the Giants and Denver games last year.  That said MikeO is exactly right, it is still preseason.  Do you guys complaining so much actually think this team is even a Divisional contender??  Im holding out hope that if the Fins catch a couple breaks they can squeek out a wild card spot.  The offensive line will be fine by week #3, gotta remember they have new players and a new system, takes time and full speed games to get their timing down.