good lord we suck

[EKnight]

Sorry Tepop, but I'd be ecstatic of Miami had nearly a decade of 10 win seasons, Super Bowl or not. -EK

[Landshark]

And one year after Dungy left, they won the superbowl, after he had one and done playoffs the previous 2 years.

Since then, they have made the playoffs twice in the past ten years

[Spider-Dan]

And one year after Dungy left, they won the superbowl, after he had one and done playoffs the previous 2 years.

And after winning that SB with Dungy's players, Gruden's record for the next 6 years was 45-51 (0-2 postseason).  Meanwhile, over the same time period, Dungy's record in Indy was 75-21 (7-5 postseason), with a Super Bowl ring of his own.

Dungy arrived in Indy and the team not only improved significantly, but stayed there.  Gruden came in, won one title with another man's players, then (when he was forced to shop for his own groceries) the program fell apart.

This entire argument is ridiculous.  Dungy "sucks" because he only got the worst franchise in the league to the conference title game once?  Or does he "suck" because he only won one title with the Colts?

[el diablo]

Sorry Tepop, but I'd be ecstatic of Miami had nearly a decade of 10 win seasons, Super Bowl or not. -EK

Slow down, cowboy. We can't have a multitude of 10+ win seasons. Cuz, then we'd have to discuss things in a thread called "Good Lord, We Rock!" That would completely contradict the title of this website altogether. We can't have that.

[tepop84]

And after winning that SB with Dungy's players, Gruden's record for the next 6 years was 45-51 (0-2 postseason).  Meanwhile, over the same time period, Dungy's record in Indy was 75-21 (7-5 postseason), with a Super Bowl ring of his own.

Dungy arrived in Indy and the team not only improved significantly, but stayed there.  Gruden came in, won one title with another man's players, then (when he was forced to shop for his own groceries) the program fell apart.

This entire argument is ridiculous.  Dungy "sucks" because he only got the worst franchise in the league to the conference title game once?  Or does he "suck" because he only won one title with the Colts?

Gruden inherited an old team. And was without 2 first round draft picks and 2 second round draft picks in the next 3 years.  Dungy managed to only win 1 super bowl with peyton manning. 
Also note, that after going 1 and done in the playoffs his final 2 years with indianapolis, the following year the colts made it to the super bowl.

[tepop84]

Also note that the Bucs were 7-9 the year before dungy took over, and his first year they went 6-10.  So saying he took over the worst team in the league doesn't exactly make sense.

[miamiwestchester]

That is all.

Suckage at everywhere but QB. Well he will make rookie mistakes but still I am looking forward to watching his progress. Its the only thing to make me want to watch this year.

[Spider-Dan]

Gruden inherited an old team. And was without 2 first round draft picks and 2 second round draft picks in the next 3 years.

Of course, the reason why they were missing those draft picks (the trade for Gruden) goes unmentioned.

Dungy managed to only win 1 super bowl with peyton manning.

Say, how many Super Bowls did Don Shula win with Dan Marino?

I guess Shula must suck, too.

Also note, that after going 1 and done in the playoffs his final 2 years with indianapolis, the following year the colts made it to the super bowl.

So another coach made it to the Super Bowl (and lost) with Dungy's team.  What of it?  Dungy won a Super Bowl with that team.

Also note that the Bucs were 7-9 the year before dungy took over, and his first year they went 6-10.  So saying he took over the worst team in the league doesn't exactly make sense.

I said the worst franchise, which is different than "the team with the worst record the previous year."  TB was a complete laughingstock before Dungy arrived.