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MikeO
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« on: August 25, 2012, 12:46:05 pm »

The Miami Dolphins made a few roster cuts today. Here is who they cut as of this morning.

RB-Jerome Messam
TE-Les Brown
CB-Jonathan Wade
CB-Marcus Brown
S-Tyrell Johnson
DT-Chas Alecxih
LB-Josh Linham
DE-Jacquies Smith
RB-Jonas Gray was also put on PUP

No surprises at all.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2012, 01:07:52 pm »

Too bad for Messam.  He looked like a bruiser but he got hurt then was outplayed by Lane.

Wade I have no sympathy for.  Got burnt twice last night for long touchdowns. 
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2012, 02:22:15 pm »

I have sympathy for anyone who loses their job and shot at their dream.  I imagine none of them were shocked, but I am sure it was still hard to accept.
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2012, 04:51:51 pm »

I have sympathy for anyone who loses their job and shot at their dream.  I imagine none of them were shocked, but I am sure it was still hard to accept.

I agree its a tough thing to undergo, but frankly I'm not surprised.  Wade supposedly was ahead of Nolan Carroll at one point and was having a great camp.  Then when the lights came on, he was constantly being toasted.  The same deal for certain receivers and tight ends on thus team who have one chance of surviving the final cuts.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2012, 07:21:47 pm »

Mike Sherman with a great quote today on our WR's

 "I think we’ll keep Bess. I can pretty much guarantee that, but there’s only one of him."
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2012, 09:02:46 pm »

Wade supposedly was ahead of Nolan Carroll at one point and was having a great camp.  Then when the lights came on, he was constantly being toasted.
The problem with judging Miami's secondary is that it's going up against Miami's offense in practice. And vice versa.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2012, 11:37:26 am »

Mike Sherman with a great quote today on our WR's

 "I think we’ll keep Bess. I can pretty much guarantee that, but there’s only one of him."

I read that too and thought "oh sh*t!"  These WRs have not stepped like they would have liked them too. Hartline needs to get off the shitter.  I know he's had the calf problem, how long has this been going on?  Really it's hampering the WR corps.
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2012, 11:42:33 am »

Here's a list of the free agent receivers still available.

Plaxico Burress
Mike Sims-Walker
Roy Williams
Patrick Crayton
Lee Evans

If the Dolphins really want a chance to win, they need to dump every receiver they have (except Bess) and sign all five of these guys.
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2012, 11:55:58 am »

Hartline put on spikes this morning and did more work than usual and upgraded his rehab some. He is getting closer it seems. Or he is giving it one last test before he is put on IR for the season. It's one of the two.

I doubt they sign any of the names above (not sure they have the cap space for it really) although they might grab a couple guys that GB cut if they fall to them on the waiver wire. Rich Gannon thinks GB has 7 legit WR's and will have to cut at least 2.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2012, 11:58:11 am »

Here's a list of the free agent receivers still available.

Plaxico Burress
Mike Sims-Walker
Roy Williams
Patrick Crayton
Lee Evans

If the Dolphins really want a chance to win, they need to dump every receiver they have (except Bess) and sign all five of these guys.

That would be an eye-opener and hilarious as well!!!  You may be on to something here, how could you go wrong with signing all or even half of these guys?  Our current WRs corps (excluding Bess) is not going to help Tannehill this year.  All blame will be heaped on his shoulders if he doesn't produce in the passing game.

Marlon Moore & Roberto Wallace have been given 2 years to develop and I haven't seen that investment worth it yet.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2012, 12:16:23 pm »

If it were me, I'd keep Bess, Hartine and the 3 rookies Fuller, Cunningham and Matthews. Everyone else I'd cut. Then I'd look for 1 more guy off the waiver wire. Pruitt, Wallace, Moore and Naanee have not shown to be reliable and they've had plenty of chances. Let the rookies try to develop along with Tannehill.

Time to face reality. This team is in rebuilding mode.
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2012, 12:29:46 pm »

If it were me, I'd keep Bess, Hartine and the 3 rookies Fuller, Cunningham and Matthews. Everyone else I'd cut. Then I'd look for 1 more guy off the waiver wire. Pruitt, Wallace, Moore and Naanee have not shown to be reliable and they've had plenty of chances. Let the rookies try to develop along with Tannehill.

Time to face reality. This team is in rebuilding mode.

It isn't breaking news that they are rebuilding. I am shocked so many people are surprised by this notion and are just realizing it now. Or it took meaningless preseason games (which I still am shocked so many of you take seriously and put so much into them.) They are starting a rookie QB and have a rookie head coach. What were people's expectations like 2 months ago, playoffs? Seriously. The whole notion and thought process of playing Tannehill now is to let him take his lumps, make his mistakes, learn on the field and be ready to hit the ground ready next year when Miami has some $40 mill or whatever the huge number is to spend in free agency to re-load with players that fit Philbin's system.

Fuller, Pruitt, and Matthews; all 3 won't make the 53.  Fuller has practice squad written all over him. The other 2 might be fighting for one roster spot. But once these other teams start making cuts Miami will grab up a couple guys and this WR corp won't look anything like it does now. I could see at least 2 new faces on the roster by the Week 1 game at WR.
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2012, 12:38:26 pm »

Our current WRs corps (excluding Bess) is not going to help Tannehill this year.  All blame will be heaped on his shoulders if he doesn't produce in the passing game.


On blaming Tannehill, look only people with low football IQ's who aren't looking at the big picture or just flat out refuse too because they hated the pick from day 1 will blame him. Or he will get blamed by some fans who are just idiots, and yes a lot of fans are idiots and you can't take them seriously. There are fans who don't think Marino is a great QB because he never won a ring, do you take them seriously? Of course not they are idiot fans.  Now, if Tannehill is throwing god awful INT's and such, then yeah blame him, I will be doing that some if it's legit!!  But to blame him if there are drops or the team loses, or WR's aren't getting open, that is silly.  The other night Miami had 8 drops, is that Tannehill's fault? Seriously, his numbers would have looked a little different if even half of those were caught let alone all 8. There might be a lot of moments like that this year. You don't grade Tannehill this year strictly on passing yards and TD passes and the teams Win/Loss record. Look at Peyton Manning's rookie year, nuff said! It wasn't f'n pretty!!  Yes you factor in the numbers of course but they won't tell the whole story because he has no help on this roster. With Tannehill if he keeps the turnovers at a minimum and by December has most if not all of his mistakes corrected and is playing well (despite actually winning and losing) you at least have hope going into next year that he is the man of the future to lead this team at the most important position in all of professional sports!
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2012, 12:46:05 pm »

It isn't breaking news that they are rebuilding. I am shocked so many people are surprised by this notion and are just realizing it now.
I'm not talking about us MikeO, I think we have known it for awhile, I'm talking about Philbin, Ireland, Sherman etc. They need to come out and admit that this isn't a playoff football team and start treating this as a rebuilding project. I don't want to see them going after a bunch of over of the hill WR's in an attempt to shore up the WR corp. Bring in one guy you believe in maybe and keep the rookies and let them learn how to play just like Tannehill. It's time to roll up your sleeves and get dirty. Start teaching the young guys how to play even if they aren't the best players on the team today. If it takes 8 games and you're 1-7, so be it. If if takes 16 games and you're 2-14 so be it, but DO IT!

And yes I know that's not really realistic because you can't do that to the other 48 guys on the roster, but that's what NEEDS to be done. That's what I would do and I'd tell the other 48 guys to be patient and if they don't like it, well tough that's what needs to be done. We can't keep waiting for guys like Moore, Wallace, Naanee and Pruitt to step up. They've had their chance and they haven't done it. Let's give someone else a chance.
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2012, 12:49:28 pm »

On blaming Tannehill, he also had an interception, would have had a second one if Gates hadn't broken it up, and is telegraphing everything he throws. He's not ready. The NFL game is faster than he's used to, and your head's in the sand if you don't see that. -EK
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