Phoenix mayor lives on a food stamp budget for a week

[CF DolFan]

I'm curious since I know that pretty much everyone knows someone, or has been them self, unemployed. Does anyone know of any single person who has not received the maximum for unemployment? I don't and I know some low income people and before you say how the heck would I know ... it's been my experience that the less money you make the more you like to share your financial issues with everyone else.

[Phishfan]

I'm curious since I know that pretty much everyone knows someone, or has been them self, unemployed. Does anyone know of any single person who has not received the maximum for unemployment?

Yes.

[badger6]

Why are you using the maximum possible benefit instead of the actual average?  You have absolutely no idea what the requirements are to qualify for the maximum.

It's what was listed on the table on the first page. You fail to realize that it's a moot point. Even at that rate, it is on the upper end of what I spend weekly. So people who get free food eat as good or better than me. Great....

Then why do you continue to insist that people can live comfortably on food stamp benefits alone?  The next three messages you posted do exactly that!

If they get as much or more than I spend a month, they do live comfortably on food stamps. What about that don't you understand ? Round and round we go courtesy of the freeloader sympathizer dan.

The maximums are not what is hypothetical.  It is your presumption that those maximum benefits are the typical benefit distribution (in the face of the provided factual average) that is hypothetical.

Well then it wouldn't be "hypothetical" maximums, it would be "hypothetical" scenario. Thanks for trying....

[Landshark]

Sure, no problem.....

You also fail to realize that buying for one person is more expensive than for buying for 4-6 people due to being able to buy more in bulk and having more variations in the diet. I would rather feed 4 people on $120 a week than feed 1 on $30 a week. Let's see $30 for one person in a week, shouldn't be hard at all. I don't think that they charge tax on EBT, so correct me if I'm wrong. All prices are from the best of my memory and rounded up to the next 50¢ increment.

Dozen eggs - $2.00
Apples - $2.00
8 Pack of instant grits or oatmeal - $2.00
Gallon of milk - $4.50
Peanut Butter - $2.00
loaf of bread - $1.00
Lunch meat - $2.50
3 cans of tuna - $2.00
Bag of frozen chicken breasts - $7.50
Bag of rice - $1.50
6 cans of vegetables @ 3 for 2.00 - 4.00

Grand Total - $31.00 with no taxes added.

Could live on that easily for 7 days. Hell with the exception of a few items, that looks a lot like the menu I use for cutting up for summer. There are plenty of alternate foods that could be swapped out on that list for virtually the same money and endless combinations. Also, due to rounding the prices up the total should be a $1-2 dollars less.

A bag of frozen chicken breasts is $7.50?  Heck, I've seen chicken breast at about $4 per pound at the supermarket.  If you really want to stretch that budget, buy bone-in thighs, drumsticks, or whole chickens for about a buck per pound.  And my wife can make a really good soup from the bones.

[badger6]

A bag of frozen chicken breasts is $7.50?  Heck, I've seen chicken breast at about $4 per pound at the supermarket.  If you really want to stretch that budget, buy bone-in thighs, drumsticks, or whole chickens for about a buck per pound.  And my wife can make a really good soup from the bones.

I think that is for a 2.5 or 3 lb bag of frozen chicken breasts. I know that the whole chickens would save money, but I was buying what I would buy. I usually only like breasts when it comes to chicken, but I guess if it was free I couldn't complain too much.

[Spider-Dan]

It's what was listed on the table on the first page. You fail to realize that it's a moot point. Even at that rate, it is on the upper end of what I spend weekly. So people who get free food eat as good or better than me.

badger6, do you buy your own food?  And by that, I mean: are you the person who physically purchases the majority of groceries that are consumed in your household?

Just want to be clear on this point.

Well then it wouldn't be "hypothetical" maximums, it would be "hypothetical" scenario.

Since you are laboriously clinging to this point of grammar, let me address it directly:

Are you talking about an actual, specific person or family who is receiving that exact maximum benefit?
No?
Then that maximum is hypothetical.

Note that the title of the page you are referencing is (emphasis added), "How Much Could I Receive?"  Could is inherently a hypothetical question.

[badger6]

badger6, do you buy your own food?  And by that, I mean: are you the person who physically purchases the majority of groceries that are consumed in your household?

Just want to be clear on this point.

Just get to your point. You do a good job of twisting shit and changing the subject.

Since you are laboriously clinging to this point of grammar, let me address it directly:

Are you talking about an actual, specific person or family who is receiving that exact maximum benefit?
No?
Then that maximum is hypothetical.

Note that the title of the page you are referencing is (emphasis added), "How Much Could I Receive?"  Could is inherently a hypothetical question.

Not clinging to anything, just pointing out the errors you make in your haste to be "smarter than everyone". So, in rebuttal, I was referring to the maximum amount of EBT that a family of 4 could receive. So while the family of 4 may be hypothetical, hence, "hypothetical situation", the maximum amount is not hypothetical. The maximum is regulated and set by the government and not up for debate. You yourself said that I was using the maximum amount. There is no ambiguity in the maximum amount of benefits available to someone who qualifies for them. The maximum amount of $668 is not hypothetical, it is fact.

[Brian Fein]

Why do we have 3 different threads now of people arguing with badger about food stamps and welfare?  Ugh.

[badger6]

Why do we have 3 different threads now of people arguing with badger about food stamps and welfare?  Ugh.

I'm just popular, lol. And the funny part is that I didn't start any of the threads, ha ha ha. Around here, certain people just like to argue with me and others to help with their self esteem issues. No worries though, I find it hilarious and entertaining.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Dozen eggs - $2.00
Apples - $2.00
8 Pack of instant grits or oatmeal - $2.00
Gallon of milk - $4.50
Peanut Butter - $2.00
loaf of bread - $1.00
Lunch meat - $2.50
3 cans of tuna - $2.00
Bag of frozen chicken breasts - $7.50
Bag of rice - $1.50
6 cans of vegetables @ 3 for 2.00 - 4.00

tuna sandwich,

Without mayo?
 

peanut butter sandwich,

Note the more popular "peanut butter and jelly" sandwich is not an option with this grocery list

chicken or ham omelet,

You will never get it out of the frying pan unless you are also buying butter, oil or pam.  The only thing you can do with these eggs is boil them.

And what are you doing with the chicken.  You can't fry it, no oil nor flour.  You have no BBQ sauce so BBQ chicken is out.  Can't do shake and bake.  I guess you could boil it.  But if you do that it will be pretty bland too bad you have no mustard to add some spice.  And if you do boil it might as well make soup, but without any soup ingredents that is not going to happen.

Point is your list is incomplete.  Granded you don't need to buy BBQ sauce, oil, salt and pepper or mustard every week.  But you do need to account for their use and periodic replacement. 

[badger6]

Without mayo?
 
Note the more popular "peanut butter and jelly" sandwich is not an option with this grocery list
You will never get it out of the frying pan unless you are also buying butter, oil or pam.  The only thing you can do with these eggs is boil them.

And what are you doing with the chicken.  You can't fry it, no oil nor flour.  You have no BBQ sauce so BBQ chicken is out.  Can't do shake and bake.  I guess you could boil it.  But if you do that it will be pretty bland too bad you have no mustard to add some spice.  And if you do boil it might as well make soup, but without any soup ingredents that is not going to happen.

Point is your list is incomplete.  Granded you don't need to buy BBQ sauce, oil, salt and pepper or mustard every week.  But you do need to account for their use and periodic replacement. 

LMFAO, really

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

LMFAO, really

Yes, really.  You made a shopping list that is completely unrealistic. 

[CF DolFan]

Yes, really.  You made a shopping list that is completely unrealistic. 

I have a daughter who doesn't like peanut butter and jelly. As well I cook eggs, either scrambled or fried, in a nonstick pan which doesn't require any butter or oil.
 

[badger6]

Yes, really.  You made a shopping list that is completely unrealistic. 

Unrealistic, ha ha. Seeing how food stamps are issued by the month, that would give you $120 for the month. Spend $5 dollars out of the monthly allotment and buy whatever the fuck you want to put on your chicken. Problem solved. If you are an adult, you sir, should be embarrassed !!!

[Sunstroke]

I'm just popular, lol. And the funny part is that I didn't start any of the threads, ha ha ha. Around here, certain people just like to argue with me and others to help with their self esteem issues.

Making up random psychological diagnoses about the people you are debating with really doesn't make you look any better to the casual observer... it just makes you look petty and insecure in your position. Just my 2 cents though...toss the coins out the window if they don't shine in your hand.

And, for the record...if I were in this argument, I'd likely be leaning toward your side of it. When I got out of the military and moved back to AZ, money was damned tight, and I once went 6 months where I lived on a $4/day food budget. No food stamps...just a tight-tight-tight budget. Granted, that was back in '88, and the diet was not the healthiest, but I survived. Lots of smack ramen, lots of frozen microwaveable burritos, lots of "whatever was in the clearance bin" at the grocery store (random veggies, applesauce, etc...). I drank kool-aid with minimal sugar and literally didn't buy chocolate or any dessert type food for the entire 6 months.