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« on: October 04, 2012, 12:36:30 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2012, 12:44:49 pm »

I am grinning ear to ear. Wait until Ryan gets a hold of Biden. There will not be any ass left!

Hear what Biden said in N.C.? Check out Jay Leno

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/10/03/leno-bidens-middle-class-has-been-buried-gaffe-which-candidate-he-cam
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2012, 12:58:53 pm »

From what I have been reading Romney sounded good, but almost everything he said was a lie.  He will score short term points with those who judged on debate style but is getting hammered over his lies. 
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 01:02:07 pm »

I was very thrown off from the first time Romney said "I will not cut taxes on high income earners."  I think that was the whole question of the debate -- how Romney was going to pay for the cuts.

But his campaign has been talking about "cutting taxes 20% across the board" for weeks.

I was dumbfounded.

I think that he probably means "no taxes IN ADDITION to extending the temporary Bush tax cuts."  Obama should have hit hard there.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2012, 01:38:15 pm »

I got the feeling that Romney was saying what Obama's supporters wanted to hear, even though it was all lies.  I ended up liking Romney a bit more after the debate, but I know from other sources that everything he said was bullcrap.

I think Obama was being too polite and trying not to call out his character as a lying scumbag.  He tried to keep reiterating what he was lying about (stopping short of calling him a liar straight out), and Romney kept denying it.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2012, 01:46:42 pm »

"The devil is in the details, the angel is in the policy."

Apparently, the policy is not giving details and look good doing it. If that's what you call an "ass kicking", then he won. Somebody else went that route 4 yrs ago. Maybe you've heard of her...

My biggest problem with Romney was his tax plan. He said his plan wouldnt "add" to the deficit. He didnt say it would cut down the debt. Then again, neither side seems to be serious in addressing this.

Obama, didn't do himself any favors by not explaining how his proposals going forward would yield better results.

Style & presentation: Romney won
Substance: draw (as in both were lacking)
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2012, 02:07:41 pm »

Can someone please explain Romney's tax plan to me in plain English? Because I still have no idea what he plans to do.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2012, 02:24:15 pm »

Can someone please explain Romney's tax plan to me in plain English? Because I still have no idea what he plans to do.

Don't feel too bad.  Romney still doesn't even know what his tax plan is either. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2012, 02:31:28 pm »

I actually felt sorry for the current POS incumbent. Too much lack of eye contact, pouting, staring at the podium while shaking his head and biting his lip, and generally looking like he would rather be somewhere else getting gang raped like he has done to this country. Kinda reminded me of a little child that had done something really bad and now can't look you in the eye cause he knows he fucked up. The leader of a country needs to have somewhat of an alpha personality. Obama doesn't have one ounce of alpha in his body. He seems like a nice enough guy, but also seems to pout and be sissy like also. Anyhow, as I have said before, Obama is in way over his head and can't fix any of this deep shit we're in. Hopefully, it's time to move on to the next one and see if they can help fix what so many before him have fucked up.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2012, 03:49:45 pm »

For the life of me I cannot see how any intelligent person could support Obama after his horrible fiscal policies, foreign policies, growing of the government, trying to weaken our country by cutting the military and being hell bent on making USA a Socialist country.  I voted for Obama in 2008 based on his promise to cut spending and shrink government. All lies.

You can buy the decoy about the tax issue all you want, but history proves what type of liar Obama is.

I realize I won't change any body's mind, and that is fine, but I think we all want what's best for America. The question really comes down to if you want a proven problem solver with a business background or a lifetime community organizer, politician who has never made a honest nickel.   

I guess this will be an issue we will just agree to disagree on, and that is fine. I respect your differing opinion. He fooled me too.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2012, 03:54:25 pm »

I'm still waiting for you guys to explain Romney's plan.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2012, 03:56:53 pm »

^ Because "small government" is not everyone's biggest concern.

I'd like growth of government in the area of healthcare.
I'd like reduction of government in areas, like military.

I don't think that makes me a bad person or an idiot.
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2012, 03:58:46 pm »

I'm still waiting for you guys to explain Romney's plan.

Details of all of Romney's planned policies are on his website. They talk about it on the radio all the time, but I never took the time to read them. Let us all know. lol

I have hated the tax system all my life. I would think anything would be an improvement over what we have.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2012, 04:07:57 pm »

Can someone please explain Romney's tax plan to me in plain English? Because I still have no idea what he plans to do.
I'm still waiting for you guys to explain Romney's plan.

I thought it was pretty self explanatory but maybe you weren't paying attention.

I won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. That's part one. So there's no economist can say Mitt Romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if I say I will not add to the deficit with my tax plan.

Number two, I will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. I know that you and your running mate keep saying that, and I know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people, but it's just not the case. . . . I will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income Americans.

(Don’t reduce the share of taxes paid by the wealthiest. The top 5% will still pay the same share of taxes they pay today,” Romney said. The top 5% income earners pay approximately 60% of all taxes.) - this is another quote from him in an earlier interview.

And number three, I will not, under any circumstances, raise taxes on middle-income families. I will lower taxes on middle-income families.


That’s really all there is to it. Romney claims that he’ll keep taxes the same for the rich; cut taxes for everyone else and not add to the deficit.

How will he balance the budget?

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"What things would I cut from spending?” Romney said. “I will eliminate all programs by this test: Is the program so critical it's worth borrowing money from China to pay for it? And if not, I'll get rid of it. Obamacare's on my list. ... I'm sorry, Jim, I'm going to stop the subsidy to PBS. I'm going to stop other things. I like PBS. I love Big Bird. Actually like you, too. But I'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from China to pay for [it]

In short Romney wants to create an environment that affords business to grow so it can employ more people. Adding more employed people adds to the tax base which in turns adds more dollars to the federal coffers. Don’t raise taxes, raise more employed people.

The one thing Romney said last night summarizes how I feel is this ...
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“Under the president’s policies, middle-income Americans have been buried,” Romney said. “They’re just being crushed. Middle-income Americans have seen their income come down by $4,300. This is a tax in and of itself. I’ll call it the economy tax. It’s been crushing. At the same time, gasoline prices have doubled under the president. Electric rates are up. Food prices are up. Health care costs have gone up by $2,500 a family. Middle-income families are being crushed.

I haven't had a raise in 5 years, have had my salary cut, and yet I pay more for everything. Although I haven't lost my job I am significantly lower than where I was 4 years ago as is most people. The tax relief I have gotten has not come close to helping make up the difference. I would gladly give it back to have the workforce pick back up so that the county could collect taxes so we would have money etc.


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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2012, 04:08:57 pm »

BTW ... I didn't hear Romney say anything last night that I haven't already heard.  I've heard other things from other people saying he said but never Romney.
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