Don't twist my words on Ryan Tannehill

[Spider-Dan]

Perception is reality.

Henne had already been deemed as "trash" by the fans and the media, so no matter what he did, his performance was just that - trash.

Tannehill is in the "I hope he is the next Marino" status right now, so people will praise him until they see what is happenning.  Heaven forbid Tannehill has a few games where pick-6's lose the game for the Dolphins.  Then see how fast the fans turn on him.

Personally, its nice to see the fan community rally around a guy for once, instead of publicly focusing on all the things he sucks at, and how terrible he is.  It has been like that since Fielder.  Name one QB of the past 16 starters that got support from the fans.  I'll wait...

Henne got plenty of support.  After his first season in '09, any blame for the team missing the playoffs was put on the Division I-A receiving corps MIA was putting on the field.  It wasn't until the collapse at the end of the second season that we started hearing calls to replace him (e.g. draft Mallett).

I challenge you to find anyone (outside of tepop) that was calling to get rid of Henne at the start of the '10 season.  Henne certainly got more support than Fiedler ever did; we were ALWAYS looking over his shoulder after every loss.

[MikeO]

Henne's first ever start was a big win on a Monday night vs the Jets where he lead the offense to 3 (yes 3) Fourth Quarter Touchdown drives. Fans were in LOVE with Henne at the beginning. Absolutely in LOVE with him. Why wouldn't they be, his first game he led the team in a win over the Jets and toasted Revis of all people and shut fat Rex up! Then a few weeks later he beat the Jets again in NY. Where once again a late 4th quarter TD drive led by Henne where he connects with Joey Haynos of all people on a TD pass to beat the Jets in New York.

Fans fell out of love with Henne when all of his warts were reveled over time and he clearly wasn't any good. Henne was given a million chances to succeed in Miami, he failed. Because he isn't any good. But it is 100% false to say Fans hated him from the beginning. Fans LOVED Henne from the moment he took over for the injured Pennington! LOVE HIM!

[Cathal]

I'm with phinfan too, lol. My bad.

[MikeO]

I'm with phinfan too, lol. My bad.

ha ha!

[Landshark]

Henne's first ever start was a big win on a Monday night vs the Jets where he lead the offense to 3 (yes 3) Fourth Quarter Touchdown drives. Fans were in LOVE with Henne at the beginning. Absolutely in LOVE with him. Why wouldn't they be, his first game he led the team in a win over the Jets and toasted Revis of all people and shut fat Rex up! Then a few weeks later he beat the Jets again in NY. Where once again a late 4th quarter TD drive led by Henne where he connects with Joey Haynos of all people on a TD pass to beat the Jets in New York.

Fans fell out of love with Henne when all of his warts were reveled over time and he clearly wasn't any good. Henne was given a million chances to succeed in Miami, he failed. Because he isn't any good. But it is 100% false to say Fans hated him from the beginning. Fans LOVED Henne from the moment he took over for the injured Pennington! LOVE HIM!

He had to have some talent in order to play the Jets like he did.  That was a very strong defense that he beat that Monday night.  He was poorly coached and picked up some bad habits which he now can't break.

[MikeO]

He had to have some talent in order to play the Jets like he did.  That was a very strong defense that he beat that Monday night.  He was poorly coached and picked up some bad habits which he now can't break.

You nailed it Landshark. And when people say Henne was being ripped and not liked from Day 1, it's a lie. That is a flat out lie. He was loved from Day 1. Everyone loved the fact we had Pennington and were grooming Henne under him because Pennington was so smart and Henne was learning from the prefect guy. Then when Henne got to finally start everyone thought he was the answer because his early games showed a ton of promise. Fans jumped off the bandwagon when he began to play poorly and get worse over time. Henne regressed over time.

And comparing results of Ryan Tannehill with 4 NFL career starts to Chad Henne who came in the league in 2008 and has over 30 career NFL starts is beyond foolish. We know what Henne is, we have a substantial sample size to go off of. With Tannehill we have 4 games hardly enough to make an equal comparison at this point in time. And anyone who does is lost on this issue. It falls back to people in the low football IQ category.

Henne will have a job in the NFL for many years as a quality #2 backup QB. Maybe come in and start for a couple games if a starter gets banged up a bit. But that's it. He is on par with Matt Moore, Jesse Campbell and those types of QB. Nice back-up's who won't kill ya if forced into action for a short amount of time. But that is their ceiling.

[Brian Fein]

Okay to clarify... I never said they were all hated from the beginning, but they were all hated by the end of their tenure in Miami which eventually led to their dismissal from the team.  Go back and read my post if you want. No one once compared Henne to Tannehill.

 Secondly, I understand now why EK hates Tannehill. And it makes sense.  Just like he loves Tebow because he somehow magically "finds a way to win" even though he sucks, he hates Tannehill because he magically is "finding ways to lose." Both of these statements completely disregard surrounding circumstances and are invalid in my opinion.  It's equivalent to watching nothing but the ESPN crawl to decide on who is good and who sucks.

Yes, Tannehill may have "given the ball away" in the Arizona game, but if you watch both of those play (as stated earlier), they were both great plays by the defense.  I give him a free pass for those plays, as they would have the same affect on the greatest qbs in league history as they did on RT.
 
You, however, choose your hatred to dictate a different opinion.

Just want to be on your page...

[MikeO]

Okay to clarify... I never said they were all hated from the beginning, but they were all hated by the end of their tenure in Miami which eventually led to their dismissal from the team.  Go back and read my post if you want. No one once compared Henne to Tannehill.

 Secondly, I understand now why EK hates Tannehill. And it makes sense.  Just like he loves Tebow because he somehow magically "finds a way to win" even though he sucks, he hates Tannehill because he magically is "finding ways to lose." Both of these statements completely disregard surrounding circumstances and are invalid in my opinion.  It's equivalent to watching nothing but the ESPN crawl to decide on who is good and who sucks.

Yes, Tannehill may have "given the ball away" in the Arizona game, but if you watch both of those play (as stated earlier), they were both great plays by the defense.  I give him a free pass for those plays, as they would have the same affect on the greatest qbs in league history as they did on RT.
 
You, however, choose your hatred to dictate a different opinion.

Just want to be on your page...

I hear ya Brian. My last post wasn't in direct response to you but a few people and few points brought up in this thread. And of course they (specifically Henne) were hated at the end of their time here. They were all proven failures (Henne, Sparano, Henning...etc) and were just flat out bad! But in the beginning there was no hate towards them.

I also never said you compared Henne to Tannehill. Someone else did though. Someone else did. And the Tebow-Tannehill comparison and EK's logic that you are trying to connect doesn't make sense though since he proclaimed Tannehill a BUST before he even played game. So before Tannehill "lost a game" EK already had him as a Bust and no good and he never will be any good. He will spew the hate all year no matter what the stats are and no matter what any analyst, coach, or columnist says. It will be good for a laugh and a chuckle all season. lol

I like the ESPN Crawl analogy....that made me laugh  

[MikeO]

That "BUST" Tannehill with NO TURNOVERS today and leads a road win vs a quality team. lol lol Boy is he a bust 

[Spider-Dan]

Okay to clarify... I never said they were all hated from the beginning, but they were all hated by the end of their tenure in Miami which eventually led to their dismissal from the team.  Go back and read my post if you want. No one once compared Henne to Tannehill.

You said, "Name one QB of the past 16 starters that got support from the fans."  Henne got a boatload of support from the fans.  If you mean, "name a QB that got support forever," well, even Bob Griese didn't get support forever.

Furthermore, this IS the beginning for Tannehill, so he should be getting support.  And when it comes to the end (which, hopefully, is 15+ years from now), there will be calls to replace him, too.

[MikeO]

Two interesting Tannehill stats I came across today..

-Ryan Tannehill is the first rookie in NFL history to pass for 1,250+ yards and record at least two wins in his team’s 1st 5 games.

-QB Ryan Tannehill has thrown 19 passes of 20 or more yards. Only five QBs have thrown more this season.

[MikeO]

Here is another...

Tannehill's yards per attempt (7.5) is the 13th highest in the NFL heading into week six.