Round 2 - Presidential debate

[Fins4ever]

Keep in mind I'm not for either side, but from the fact-checking I've seen, both are right. Just browsing Yahoo this morning:

If you don't remember the White House blaming the video for protests and the killings, I have to wonder what planet you are from. It was headlines from day 1. Hillary made a statement the next day if you recall and then there was a big search to find the guy would did the supposed movie.

Not really important and I am not going to research it for you. I have been reading about it everyday since it happened.

In the end for us to bail out Libya's sorry ass and then not get protection for our own embassy is disgusting. We won't even talk about the debate on the consulate asking for more protection and being denied shortly before the attacks.

Seriously, this guy has lied since day one and has did his best to turn our country into socialist and now wants to cut our military while bowing to the muslims...all by adding almost 6 trillion to the debt and keeping a 1 trillion dollar deficit.

What else do you need to know?   Hey, I voted for him (Obama) last time. No one is more disappointed than me!

[Fins4ever]

Fact: people will hear what they want to hear.  badger clearly supports Romney and thus is under the impression that Romney won the debate.

Fact: Romney's "binder of women" story was made up.  Lies.  Never happened.

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How would you know, or any of us? What has  Obama done to deserve your vote? Are you black?  Obama has never accomplished nothing in his entire life and never made a nickel that was not funded by the taxpayer. Time for that professional politician to go. 

[Fins4ever]

By the way, cannot to see what lie Obama tells when Romney asks him why he went on Letterman and  The View instead of meeting with the PM of Israel to discuss the threat of nuclear arms from Iran.

Let's see...Barbra Walters or preventing WW3? lol

[Phishfan]

If you don't remember the White House blaming the video for protests and the killings, I have to wonder what planet you are from. It was headlines from day 1. Hillary made a statement the next day if you recall and then there was a big search to find the guy would did the supposed movie.

Not really important and I am not going to research it for you. I have been reading about it everyday since it happened.

In the end for us to bail out Libya's sorry ass and then not get protection for our own embassy is disgusting. We won't even talk about the debate on the consulate asking for more protection and being denied shortly before the attacks.

Seriously, this guy has lied since day one and has did his best to turn our country into socialist and now wants to cut our military while bowing to the muslims...all by adding almost 6 trillion to the debt and keeping a 1 trillion dollar deficit.

What else do you need to know?   Hey, I voted for him (Obama) last time. No one is more disappointed than me!

He was not even discussing the Libyan attack. I'm not sure why the rant here?

[Cathal]

If you don't remember the White House blaming the video for protests and the killings, I have to wonder what planet you are from. It was headlines from day 1. Hillary made a statement the next day if you recall and then there was a big search to find the guy would did the supposed movie.

Not really important and I am not going to research it for you. I have been reading about it everyday since it happened.

In the end for us to bail out Libya's sorry ass and then not get protection for our own embassy is disgusting. We won't even talk about the debate on the consulate asking for more protection and being denied shortly before the attacks.

Seriously, this guy has lied since day one and has did his best to turn our country into socialist and now wants to cut our military while bowing to the muslims...all by adding almost 6 trillion to the debt and keeping a 1 trillion dollar deficit.

What else do you need to know?   Hey, I voted for him (Obama) last time. No one is more disappointed than me!

I was referencing the oil comment, not the diplomat killing.

[Phishfan]

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Time for that professional politician to go. 

Funny, Obama is a professional politician. He entered the politcal arena in 1997. Romney on the other hand first entered the political arena in 1994. Since Romney wasn't effective at getting elected I guess we can call him an amatuer politician?

[Fins4ever]

As an undecided vote, I just wish there was a moderator out there who could force someone to answer a question. That's what I would love to see. I've only watched a handful of these debates so that might have happened in the past, but I doubt it.

Good point Cathal and that has been mentioned before. I have been watching debates for several years and the 3rd debate in 2008 between McCain and Obama swung my vote to Obama.

Obama said he would make strategic cuts, cut government and spending and cut the deficit in half. ALL LIES.

I would rather see them answer 4 or 5 key questions and have several minutes of back and forth debate instead of moving on with more questions answers.

BTW, that was the worst, most biased moderating I have ever seen. Ok, I am voting for Romney this time (fool me once....), but for her to interrupt Romney 28 times to Obama's 6 is ridiculous.

Here is more facts.

 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57534438/conservatives-assail-debate-moderator-candy-crowley/

[Buddhagirl]

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How would you know, or any of us? What has  Obama done to deserve your vote? Are you black?  Obama has never accomplished nothing in his entire life and never made a nickel that was not funded by the taxpayer. Time for that professional politician to go. 

I'll tell you what Obama has accomplished. He learned in grade school that you never use a double (or in this case quadruple) negative in a sentence. So there's that.

[badger6]

I'll tell you what Obama has accomplished. He learned in grade school that you never use a double (or in this case quadruple) negative in a sentence. So there's that.

You know what else he accomplished ?  He lied to, fooled, and manipulated virtually all the black people into voting for him while not giving a fuck about them to begin with. Now he is doing it again. You are bought and paid for, joke is on you sucker, ha ha.........

[Sunstroke]

Outright and blatant lie. #1 Obama did indeed say terrorism #2 Crowley defended her psotion today. I'm not sure where you get your news from.

Duh...Fox News. They have a nightly clone download app.

[badger6]

^^^ Have you seen or read a transcript of the speech or are you just using talking points? I will grant you 9/11 is mentioned immediately before "acts of terror" but you omit that it immediately preceeds mention the four Americans lost in Libya. The UN speech also covered topics other than the Libyan attack so the video is not specifically attributed to it. Or by the fact that they were contained within the same speech are you also saying that Obama tied the video to a nuclear armed Iran?

So wait, are you saying that they blamed the video for 2 weeks after the incident ? Or are you saying that they were saying it was a terrorist attack from the beginning ?

This quote after the rose garden speech and before the UN speech would contradict the one time arbitrary use of the word terror as an excuse.

What we've seen over the last week, week and a half, is something that actually we've seen in the past, where there is an offensive video or cartoon directed at the prophet Muhammad. And this is obviously something that then is used as an excuse by some to carry out inexcusable violent acts directed at Westerners or Americans

Or at the UN:

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.

It is more than clear that they were blaming the attacks on the video and intolerance toward Islam and not terrorist activity.

BTW - that fat ass Crowley bitch had no business getting into the debate or supporting either participant in any way. But then again, some people were saying last week that she should have never been a moderator and would try to pull this shit. Hopefully it will backfire...

[Buddhagirl]

You know what else he accomplished ?  He lied to, fooled, and manipulated virtually all the black people into voting for him while not giving a fuck about them to begin with. Now he is doing it again. You are bought and paid for, joke is on you sucker, ha ha.........

Both you and Fins4ever's thinly veiled racism has grown tiresome.

[badger6]

Both you and Fins4ever's thinly veiled racism has grown tiresome.

The only thing getting tiresome is you pulling the race card continuously. Who said anything racist this time ? Oh yeah, I forgot anyone that opposes or disagrees with a negro is a racist. How original.

Go be a victim of your blackness some more and cry about it while I laugh at the fool in the link below forecasting his political future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdlgTHjAJzQ&t=0m8s

^^^^WTF YOU IDIOT, YOU ARE STILL THE PRESIDENT. AT LEAST FOR NOW DUMB ASS !!!!

[Spider-Dan]

You seriously believe that Romney won that debate?  Even Fox News was complaining about the moderator seconds after it ended.  And as we all know, when you complain about the moderator, that means you lost.

Romney got hammered.  He got fact-checked by the moderator.  He was the butt of several laugh lines ("my pension isn't as big as yours" and "if we follow his policies, maybe the economy will crash again and we'll go back to deep-recession-gas-prices").  Just look at the optics after the debate: Obama is greeting the crowd (like a person who actually likes people) while Romney huddles with his family and then hightails it out of there.

And the closing statement, where Romney lobbed out a "I care about 100% of people" softball for Obama to smash to deep center, during the ONLY part of the debate where Romney would have no chance to respond?  Just amateurish.

But that's fine.  When the Republicans win a presidential debate (and based on polling, they've lost something like 9 of the last 10), it's an Amazing Game-Changer.  But when they get roughed up, somehow it's still a win (or at worst, a draw) and really it's all the moderator's fault.  To be fair, though, some of the more hardcore lefties were in denial the day after the first debate... maybe you guys will come around.

One thing that I found very interesting, though: all of the right-wing echo chamber talk about the teleprompter-powered collegiate-underachieving affirmative action president seems to have gone silent for today.  That says volumes about Obama's performance.

[badger6]

You seriously believe that Romney won that debate?  Even Fox News was complaining about the moderator seconds after it ended.  And as we all know, when you complain about the moderator, that means you lost.

Romney got hammered.  He got fact-checked by the moderator.  He was the butt of several laugh lines ("my pension isn't as big as yours" and "if we follow his policies, maybe the economy will crash again and we'll go back to deep-recession-gas-prices").  Just look at the optics after the debate: Obama is greeting the crowd (like a person who actually likes people) while Romney huddles with his family and then hightails it out of there.

And the closing statement, where Romney lobbed out a "I care about 100% of people" softball for Obama to smash to deep center, during the ONLY part of the debate where Romney would have no chance to respond?  Just amateurish.

But that's fine.  When the Republicans win a presidential debate (and based on polling, they've lost something like 9 of the last 10), it's an Amazing Game-Changer.  But when they get roughed up, somehow it's still a win (or at worst, a draw) and really it's all the moderator's fault.  To be fair, though, some of the more hardcore lefties were in denial the day after the first debate... maybe you guys will come around.

One thing that I found very interesting, though: all of the right-wing echo chamber talk about the teleprompter-powered collegiate-underachieving affirmative action president seems to have gone silent for today.  That says volumes about Obama's performance.

Smashed, really ? That's not what the polls say. Furthermore, you seem to relish in the fact that the moderator seemed to pick sides with Obama and the liberal tilt of the questions she asked that were hand picked by her.

Wednesday morning, Correspondent Chuck Todd of NBC’s Today, hardly a conservative media outlet, said : “The President also benefitted from many questions posed by the so-called undecided voters, covering issues near and dear to his liberal base....”. Enough said.

Not to mention that Obama was saved by the Old Crowley from the questions about the fast and furious. Also, you may think that the "My pension isn't as big as yours" comment went for Obama. That was Obama's week attempt at humor to deflect attention away from Romney's question. The fact is that Obama attacked Romney for having investments in China. Romney noted that his assets are in a blind trust, which include overseas investments, and asked Obama about his pension which also includes overseas investments. Obama wouldn't answer the question. His lack of an answers indicates dishonesty and hypocrisy.