A Welfare Nation?

[Spider-Dan]

"Why are you guys calling me a racist just because I complain about Kool-Aid drinking welfare mothers supporting gold-toothed baby daddies that wear expensive Nike sneakers (and other "bling") while driving luxury SUVs with flashy wheels?  None of that stuff implies race at all!"

[Spider-Dan]

No it doesn't. HR Block is a tax preparer service who's goal it is to get your business and try to get you as much money on your tax return as legally possible. Nothing wrong with that.

Let me see if I have this straight:

If an organization advocates for me to receive government payouts in the form of food stamps, they are advocating socialist wealth redistribution.

HOWEVER

If a different organization advocates for me to receive government payouts in the form of straight cash, why, that's just giving me my own money back!

Before you respond, please consider the following facts:

1) The amount of money one can receive as a federal income tax refund is not limited to the amount of money that one contributed in federal income tax (e.g. EITC, child credits, etc.)

2) People who apply for (and receive) food stamp benefits ALMOST CERTAINLY pay many other forms of taxes (be they payroll taxes, state unemployment insurance, state disability insurance, property taxes, car registration fees, gas taxes, telecommunication taxes, utility taxes, etc.)

Like I said, H&R Block wants to give you back YOUR OWN MONEY. AARP wants to GIVE YOU MINE.

Why aren't food stamp recipients getting their own money back?  Are federal income taxes the only taxes that count?

[Buddhagirl]

Hey Fins!!!  You didn't answer my question. What part of Europe are we discussing? I'd love to hop in here, but I need to know if we're discussing Western Europe, Eastern Europe. Germany, the UK, Poland, the Czech Republic, France, Greece, Latvia, Lithuania?

Oh, wait. Are you just trolling? If so, then troll on, brah!

[badger6]

"Why are you guys calling me a racist just because I complain about Kool-Aid drinking welfare mothers supporting gold-toothed baby daddies that wear expensive Nike sneakers (and other "bling") while driving luxury SUVs with flashy wheels?  None of that stuff implies race at all!"

Call me what you want. I won't lose sleep over it, count on it !!!


Just because facts imply race, it doesn't invalidate those facts. So without adieu, more facts racism from me, the racist. In this nation, there are more negros on welfare than all other demographic when adjusted for population. By a wide margin, and it's not even close. As far as your other argument about government funded abortion. Adjusted for population, there are more negro women getting abortions than any other demographic. By population, they lead in HIV infections, single mother households, incarceration, poverty, and many others. Government statistics indicate that “43% of all murder victims in 2007 were black, 93.1% of whom were killed were black.” I guess those facts make me a racist also. I would be willing to bet that if all these issues didn't exist in the black community that you wouldn't argue for or care much about them. Since you want to fight for black people so much, maybe you might want to get out in the black community and do something to help their situation instead of worrying about the vernacular I use on a daily basis on a random internet website. I guess it's easier for you play on the internet and do nothing than it is to make a difference for your people. Oh, that's right, you do something, you argue with a racist about how it's everyone else fault and the government should "fix" all their problems that "the evil white man" creates. And I'm the racist, oh the hypocrisy, ha ha haaaaaaaaa

[Spider-Dan]

In this nation, there are more negros on welfare than all other demographic when adjusted for population. By a wide margin, and it's not even close. As far as your other argument about government funded abortion. Adjusted for population, there are more negro women getting abortions than any other demographic. By population, they lead in HIV infections, single mother households, incarceration, poverty, and many others. Government statistics indicate that “43% of all murder victims in 2007 were black, 93.1% of whom were killed were black.”

So basically, you're saying that the when categorized by race, the segment of the population that is the most poverty-stricken... also receives the most welfare?  Surely this is some sort of mistake!

And this same segment of the population... the one that can least afford the extra expense of a child... is leading the nation in abortion rates?  Say not so!

And these same black women, who are the poorest women in the nation, are least able to maintain a stable family?  And the sons of these lowest-income households are the most highly incarcerated of all races?  I am shocked!

But maybe you're right.  Either "the negroes" are simply the most unlucky group of people in the world, or there is some innate genetic inferiority that causes them, as a race, to continually engage in the cycle of poverty, welfare, and crime.

It's certainly nothing as simple as poor people growing up in harsh conditions and having a harder life.  Because, as you have already proven, their lives are full of luxury vehicles, expensive sneakers, gaudy jewelry, and lobster dinners, all courtesy of the government dole.

[badger6]

So basically, you're saying that the when categorized by race, the segment of the population that is the most poverty-stricken... also receives the most welfare?  Surely this is some sort of mistake!

And this same segment of the population... the one that can least afford the extra expense of a child... is leading the nation in abortion rates?  Say not so!

And these same black women, who are the poorest women in the nation, are least able to maintain a stable family?  And the sons of these lowest-income households are the most highly incarcerated of all races?  I am shocked!

But maybe you're right.  Either "the negroes" are simply the most unlucky group of people in the world, or there is some innate genetic inferiority that causes them, as a race, to continually engage in the cycle of poverty, welfare, and crime.

It's certainly nothing as simple as poor people growing up in harsh conditions and having a harder life.  Because, as you have already proven, their lives are full of luxury vehicles, expensive sneakers, gaudy jewelry, and lobster dinners, all courtesy of the government dole.

I guess that having a "harder life" outweighs personal responsibility and poor choices in life, huh?  I never said that the government provided all of those things you listed. I guess that $3000 shiny wheels on a $1200 car or gold teeth should be a priority in life to poor people. Take it how you like it, and think of me how you will, but the truth hurts. Black people in general seem to think that they are owed something and expect certain things that others in this country don't. They seem to also want to have and do things that they think other groups shouldn't get to have or do. That in itself is racism.

I think the urban dictionary sums it up nicely:

2.    black people    

A potentially great people who have a lot of problems that need to be addressed. Quite rightly they feel a great injustice has been done to them in the past, but this tends to negate any ability they might have to look upon themselves self critically…thus perpetuating a cycle of crime and underachievement.

Historically black people have suffered a lot at the hands of others, but for how long can they keep blaming the past for their problems?

[Spider-Dan]

The urban dictionary!  Don't see how I can top that citation.

Well played, sir.

[Fau Teixeira]

Black people in general..

generalized statements and stereotyping of an entire ethnic group is the textbook definition of racism

[Spider-Dan]

Fau, you're mistaken.

It's not racist to state that black people in general have a sense of entitlement.  It's that sense of entitlement itself (you know, that sense that is generally shared across the entire race) that's racist!

It's kind of like how it's not racist to say that the Jews are generally trying to financially exploit everyone else... it's their race-wide effort to financially exploit other races that's racist!

[Sunstroke]

The urban dictionary!  Don't see how I can top that citation. 

You could maybe try MAD Magazine or the Sunday comics...

Badger's already admitted he's a racist, pseudo-justified it, and stated that he didn't care what anyone else up here thinks. Please stop calling him out on it, as listening to him spew intolerance-spiel that's not-so-cleverly disguised as self righteous social commentary is right up there with "listening to Gilbert Gottfried reviewing Keeping Up With The Kardashians" on my "That Shit Gets Old in a Hurry" list.

[bsmooth]

^^^^X2. How convenient for a bunch of liberals to call someone a racist that they perceive as a republican or someone that doesn't agree with them. What you bunch of clowns call me is irrelevant. YOU PEOPLE DON'T DEFINE ME. But just so I don't disappoint your hopes to have someone to call a racist, here goes.

FUCK ALL CAUCASIANS
FUCK ALL NEGROS
FUCK ALL INDIANS
FUCK ALL HISPANICS
FUCK ALL JEWS
FUCK ALL CHRISTIANS
FUCK ALL MUSLIMS
FUCK ALL HOMOSEXUALS
FUCK ALL  PEOPLE
FUCK THE WORLD

MAY YOU ALL ROT IN HELL FOR WHO YOU ARE !!!

There, now you can all go have your testosterone free orgy of liberalism together.

Misanthropy for the win.

[mecadonzilla]

Wait a sec.  When you say "ALL INDIANS," does that mean folks from India or Native Americans?  Can we include the Inuit to the mix because they've been entitled to too many words for snow for so damn long?  Or does this fall under the main category of "ALL PEOPLE?"  Are we sure the Inuit have a soul to damn?  I just want to make sure we're all FUCKED equally.

[Buddhagirl]

I just want to know where all this free shit I'm supposed to feel entitled to is. My Jetta needs rims and I'd look like a badass with gold teeth.

[Cathal]

I know the way the information is being provided is quite extreme but at times, there are points being made by badger6 in terms of personal responsibility, but it probably applies for a lot of low income people, not just the black population. For instance, I believe the personal responsibility just isn't there and their (poor people) priorities are messed up. I live by a very low-income area but it's not shocking to see people living in a 400sq.ft. house with a run down cadillac sporting new 22"-chromed out rims with the new iPhone. I will admit, I know nothing of their financial situation or even their background, but just from the outside looking in, how in the world can you be spending money on luxury items like that when you live in a dilapidated house? It just never made sense to me.

Anyway, carry on.

[badger6]

generalized statements and stereotyping of an entire ethnic group is the textbook definition of racism

Well that depends on if you think stereotyping, generalizations, and being a racist are the same things ? I would say that they are different. Stereotypes and generalized statements are basically the same. I would also say that a true racist hates other races. Does someone using generalizations and stereotypes about certain groups make someone a hateful racist ? I don't think so, well at least not if the statements are true. The thing about stereotypes is that if they aren't true, they wouldn't be stereotypes. If they weren't true, they wouldn't survive long as stereotypes. Stereotypes tell us about groups of people and their traits in general, there are numerous individual exceptions, but generalizations still holds true at the population level. They do not, however tell us how we should to treat people.