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« Reply #45 on: November 26, 2012, 11:46:04 am »

The reason why Mallett is on the bench is because NE has one of the best QBs in the league at the helm.
NYJ has one of the worst QBs in the league at the helm.
So why is Tebow still on the bench, again?

The Mallett comparison is so absurd as to be useless.
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« Reply #46 on: November 26, 2012, 12:23:31 pm »

The Jaguars would pick him up in a hot second.  In fact, it would be dumb of them not to, unless they don't like making money.

Agree with that. If nothing else Tebow would put butts in the seats. I think his jersey is still a top seller but have not checked in a while.

Mike said Tim had his choice. Had not heard that before. Would like to read about it if possible.
It sounds odd considering Tebow is from Jax. and I would think he would have had a better chance to start.
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« Reply #47 on: November 26, 2012, 01:05:11 pm »

My point is we have very little data to make an analysis of either player.
That's true, but I don't think Rex Ryan has very little data to make an analysis of Tebow, so you have to ask yourself is Rex Ryan just wrong on Tebow or is he in someway biased about Sanchez? It's possible since he did draft Sanchez so it's possible that Tebow has actually looked better in practice than Sanchez but Ryan is still reluctant to let him start, but somehow I kinda think that winning would be more important to Rex than just starting Sanchez. Maybe "being a leader" isn't all that important to Rex or perhaps Rex thinks he should be the leader and not Tebow, but again it would have to be more important to him than winning which seems like a stretch to me. Then there are the rumors that the Jets players don't think much of Tebow either. They are only rumors, but I've found that where there is smoke there is fire typically. He didn't exactly call the rumors false, he simply said it was cowardly the way the rumors were "leaked" which we can both agree about without the rumors being false.

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2012, 01:14:58 pm »

That's true, but I don't think Rex Ryan has very little data to make an analysis of either player, so you have to ask yourself is Rex Ryan just wrong on Tebow or is he in someway biased about Sanchez? It's possible since he did draft Sanchez so it's possible that Tebow has actually looked better in practice than Sanchez but Ryan is still reluctant to let him start, but somehow I kinda think that winning would be more important to Rex than just starting Sanchez.

I don't know which one looks better in practice.  I do know which one looks better in actual games -- Tebow. 

Rex Ryan pushed very hard to draft Sanchez, traded up and spent a ton of money.  My guess is if Sanchez loses his job so does Ryan. 
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« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2012, 01:48:55 pm »

Rex Ryan pushed very hard to draft Sanchez, traded up and spent a ton of money.  My guess is if Sanchez loses his job so does Ryan.
Not if Tebow plays great, only if Tebow sucks too. Maybe that's Ryan's biggest fear, is that Tebow will be worse than Sanchez. That in my opinion definately WOULD get Ryan fired.
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« Reply #50 on: November 26, 2012, 07:04:45 pm »

Just like at the end of the year, I'll be digging up EKnight's post on Tebow being the solution to the Jets quarterback problems.

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« Reply #51 on: November 26, 2012, 07:08:13 pm »


NYJ has one of the worst QBs in the league at the helm.
So why is Tebow still on the bench, again?


Because Teblow is beyond awful. He has turned into a total punchline and a joke



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« Reply #52 on: November 26, 2012, 07:08:58 pm »

Agree with that. If nothing else Tebow would put butts in the seats. I think his jersey is still a top seller but have not checked in a while.

Mike said Tim had his choice. Had not heard that before. Would like to read about it if possible.
It sounds odd considering Tebow is from Jax. and I would think he would have had a better chance to start.

It was about making $$$. Tebow can get more attention and make more money off the field in NY. That's why he picked NY

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« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2012, 01:03:48 pm »

Tebow is unique in that he can destroy your staff. 

Sanchez sucks, but he'll get cut and that'll be the end of it.  If Tebow plays (and I don't doubt he'll be more effective in the short-term), he is effectively crippling the franchise.  They'll be lucky if he plays poorly and they can just dump him.  But if he eeks out wins, look out.  The Jets are in for a nightmare. 
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« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2012, 01:26:52 pm »

At this point- and honestly for the past few weeks- not playing Tebow can't be anything more than RR's ego. I think everyone agrees that the Jets are going no where. Sanchez sucks and they literally have nothing to lose by playing Tebow. If they both suck, everyone can go with, "Hey, at least Tim got his chance, they still sucked and lost, we can cut our losses and start fresh." Not playing him at this point is worse, insofar as there will always be fans and some people within the organization who will say, "you have to keep him, because we don't know what he could do. Look what he did in Denver." -EK
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« Reply #55 on: November 27, 2012, 01:37:52 pm »

^ I disagree.

If I were a coach, I wouldn't start Tebow either and it has nothing to do with my ego.

As a coach, you're responsible for weighing your need to win now with your ability to win long term.  I think that Tebow arguably gives you a better chance to win today.  However, I think he cripples your ability to win long term.  (...and not compared to Sanchez....just in general.)  I would not play him in fear that I'd be pressured to keep him in future years, elongating a QB controversy.

Besides, we've seen Tebow.  The guy can't make throws.  They watch him in practice every day, where I'm guessing he still can't make throws.  By putting Tebow in, Rex Ryan is essentially forfeiting his job -- he'll probably lose it anyway, but by not playing Tebow, at least he's doing it on his own terms.
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« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2012, 07:13:04 pm »



Besides, we've seen Tebow.  The guy can't make throws.  They watch him in practice every day, where I'm guessing he still can't make throws.  By putting Tebow in, Rex Ryan is essentially forfeiting his job -- he'll probably lose it anyway, but by not playing Tebow, at least he's doing it on his own terms.

I agree. They can't start Teblow because he can't play. He sucks!
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« Reply #57 on: November 27, 2012, 07:23:21 pm »

I think Sanchez is a mediocre QB at best, Tebow probably the same as Sanchez.  That said the Jets' problem goes deeper than the QB position.
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« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2012, 03:15:04 pm »

Sanchez with 3 INT's and less than 100 yards passing in the 3rd quarter at home vs Arizona.

Enjoy paying him that big contract Woody!! ha ha ha
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« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2012, 03:16:13 pm »

Sanchez got benched. McElroy playing QB. Tebow inactive due to injury. -EK
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