Review of Marshall trade at halfway point

[Spider-Dan]

So far, through 8 games, Brandon Marshall has 59 receptions for 797 yards and 7 TDs; he is currently 4th in receptions, 2nd in yards, and T-3rd in TDs.  While the Dolphins' leading receiver, Brian Hartline, has improved his performance over last year, he has only 1 TD on the year (one of the biggest criticisms that was made of Marshall).

MIA received 2 third-round picks for him.  The first of those was traded for two other picks, which were used on Michael Egnew (who has yet to participate in a single play) and B.J. Cunningham (who did not make the 53-man roster).

Given what Marshall has accomplished with the... streaky... Jay Cutler, one can only wonder how Tannehill might be performing with a true #1 to throw to.  The argument can be made for trading Marshall for salary cap relief, but so far, the compensation that the Dolphins received for him has been utterly without value.  (And given CHI's current record, it appears likely that the 3rd round pick received next year will be significantly later in the round than the pick that MIA received this year.)

Ireland still has a chance to get a miracle pick in the third next year (e.g. Jason Taylor), but barring that, this trade appears to be a colossal blunder on the part of the Dolphins.  Ireland clearly undervalued Marshall and should have been able to get more than he did.

[TonyB0D]

the dude is a psycho, got stabbed by his wife, and punched a woman in the face.  good riddance.

[MikeO]

The man wasn't traded for his ability (even with all the drops). So looking at the stat sheet to judge the trade is a waste of time. The trade had NOTHING to do with stats or ability.

Nobody liked the man in Miami. Many Teammates didn't like him. The new coaches didn't want to put up with his B.S and baggage he brings to a locker-room, and management was sick of the constant drama off the field. They didn't want him around anymore..period!

Just be happy they got anything in return for him and didn't just cut him and get nothing!

[Landshark]

It doesn't matter what happened off the field.  What matters is what he is doing on the field.  The Dolphins could really use those numbers right about now.  They might be sitting at 7-1 instead of 4-4.

[CF DolFan]

The list of people who think we should have kept him is pretty small for a reason. He bropught more negativity to the team than he produced for us.

For whatever reason, every time we get someone from UCF they are more headache then they are worth. I sure wish we could have landed Assante Samuel instead of Marshall and Culpepper as one day I really hope to see a local UCF guy go on to do well in Miami. 

[Phishfan]

Here it is again, Spider's bi-monthly cry about Marshall. We get it, you didn't like the trade. Has that much really happened to warrant you bringing it up again?

[SCFinfan]

The leash is tight on receivers. If we'd drop Chad J. over a minor altercation w/ his wife, I can understand why we'd send Marshall packing. The coaching crew appears to be low key. They probably cant' stand drama. So they rid themselves of it, to the extent they can do so...

[Jim Gray]

I know it seems counter intuitive that Miami would be better without Johnson and Marshall, but I believe that's the case.  In Miami they were both distractions.  It can never be proven, but I think the current team psyche, as well as the bond is based on having guys who are team players. 

[Brian Fein]

Yeah and the Dolphins got hosed on Wes Welker too. 

Point is that Marshall wouldn't have anywhere NEAR those numbers if he was still wearing aqua.  Marshall was a bad fit for this team and crippled the team in a year when they needed cap money.  I still support the trade.

No one disputes Marshall's ability, but the drops haven't gone away.  Its convenient that this thread gets posted on the day he went for 122 and 3 scores.

[jimmythefinger]

I think the main issue with dumping Marshall is not how he's done versus how Fins' Receivers have performed since. The main issue is the VALUE Miami got, and what that says about the team's Front Office. The guy was problems. You want to dump him, we can all see the sense in that. But the team didn't even TRY to replace Marshall's talent or production. I don't care what happens off the field. On the field Miami suddenly had a big hole to fill and what did they do? Legedu Naanae, Chad Oh-So-Sinkhole and now Jabar Gaffney.

Don't tell me that was intelligent.

I still remember Jeff Ireland on the phone in "Hard Knocks" talking about the Miami Receivers: "We've got a bunch of fours, fives and sixes. We need some ones, two and threes..."

How dumb is this guy?

And while we're on the subject, let's talk about Vontae Davis. Correct me if I am wrong (and I am not) but watching Miami's secondary against Andrew Luck I think we could've used a little more talent a Cornerback.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

The man wasn't traded for his ability (even with all the drops). So looking at the stat sheet to judge the trade is a waste of time. The trade had NOTHING to do with stats or ability.

Nobody liked the man in Miami. Many Teammates didn't like him. The new coaches didn't want to put up with his B.S and baggage he brings to a locker-room, and management was sick of the constant drama off the field. They didn't want him around anymore..period!

Just be happy they got anything in return for him and didn't just cut him and get nothing!

While it is rare that I agree with anything Mike writes.  On this I agree with him 100%.

Marshall wanted to be in Miami about as much as Randy Moss wanted to be in Oakland.  Granted with Moss a factor in the improvement was a much improved QB, it wasn't the only factor or the largest.  Both Moss and Marshall put forth effort when they want to and are useless when they don't want to. 

I agree with Brian the fins were stupid with Wes Welker.  His improvement had zero to do with effort and 100% with having a better QB, but if he had remained on the Fins he would have been a huge asset for the Fins and not greatly improved a division rival.    I, of course, am thrilled with the WW trade to NE. 

[EKnight]

Here it is again, Spider's bi-monthly cry about Marshall. We get it, you didn't like the trade. Has that much really happened to warrant you bringing it up again?

122 yards and 3 TDs yesterday. IMO, that warrants bringing it up. -EK

[masterfins]

These threads are such a waste of time. Football is a team sport, it's not golf or tennis, what a guy does on one team is not necessarily what he would do on another team.  I swear some of you guys probably take a dump then spend 10 minutes staring at the toilet bowl analyzing it.

[bsfins]

+1 on Phishes post...

These threads are such a waste of time. Football is a team sport, it's not golf or tennis, what a guy does on one team is not necessarily what he would do on another team.  I swear some of you guys probably take a dump then spend 10 minutes staring at the toilet bowl analyzing it.

word....

Fire me I lied,I said I wouldn't say anything else about Marshall,How Soon we forget what Brandon did to get out of Denver because he wasn't happy.
(The video of his video of his practice tantram,is gone now)

[Pappy13]

Given what Marshall has accomplished with the... streaky... Jay Cutler

The fact is Spider that Marshall is a better fit with Jay Cutler than he would have been with Ryan Tannehill. If Marshall would have been here instead of Miami, I doubt his stats would look significantly better than Hartline's do at the moment. Maybe he would have 2 TD's.