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Question: Would you be ok if we made Puerto Rico the 51st state?
Yes   -11 (91.7%)
No   -1 (8.3%)
Total Voters: 11

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Landshark
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« on: November 07, 2012, 06:46:07 pm »
Puerto Rico has opted to start the process to become the 51st state in the United States.  Of course, Congress has to ratify this but I think they will.

http://news.yahoo.com/puerto-ricans-opt-statehood-referendum-134423786.html
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 07:00:29 pm »
Do you seriously believe the Republican House will ratify the addition of two Senators (and however many Representatives) from Puerto Rico?

This stands about as much chance of success as if California tried to split into N.Cali and S.Cali.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 07:04:52 pm »

Or as likely as that same Republican House abolishing Presidential term limits and telling Obama "Go ahead, dude...take as much time as you need."
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 07:07:39 pm »
Quote from: Sunstroke on November 07, 2012, 07:04:52 pm
Or as likely as that same Republican House abolishing Presidential term limits and telling Obama "Go ahead, dude...take as much time as you need."




You need 2/3 to amend the consitution only a majority to admit new states.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 07:10:31 pm »

^^^ ...and I contend that no chance is still equal to no chance. Wink
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 07:24:32 pm »
Quote from: MyGodWearsAHoodie on November 07, 2012, 07:07:39 pm
You need 2/3 to amend the consitution only a majority to admit new states.
The GOP has a majority in the house.  Q.E.D.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 07:27:12 pm »
Quote from: Spider-Dan on November 07, 2012, 07:00:29 pm
Do you seriously believe the Republican House will ratify the addition of two Senators (and however many Representatives) from Puerto Rico?

This stands about as much chance of success as if California tried to split into N.Cali and S.Cali.

Really?  With Puerto Rico becoming a state, its residents then have to pay federal income taxes.  I'm sure any additional tax revenue will be welcome in Washington, regardless of the majority party.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 07:40:31 pm »
How much federal tax income is worth giving up two votes in the Senate?
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 07:42:08 pm »
Quote from: Spider-Dan on November 07, 2012, 07:40:31 pm
How much federal tax income is worth giving up two votes in the Senate?

Are two votes in the Senate really that big of a deal? 
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 07:45:50 pm »
Um, yes.  A huge, huge deal.
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 12:31:38 am »
Quote from: Landshark on November 07, 2012, 07:42:08 pm
Are two votes in the Senate really that big of a deal? 

If they go Democrat or Independent, then they the GOP would not be able to fillibuster anymore. That would be a huge, huge, huge development and shift of power.
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 08:19:06 am »
It's unfortunate but I do agree. This is one of those cases where politics will trump what is the right thing to do.
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 11:15:09 am »
No way the Republicans let this happen.
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2012, 11:21:08 am »
I'm curious,not about will or wont it happen...but how do we feel about it...Yahoo's front page has a poll about this...

I'll add a poll...Simple yes or No...

I'm not sure what the Democrat,Republican power shift would be with this...but as an suggestion I think you could give Washington D.C. state hood power along with Puerto Rico..and go 52..
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2012, 11:47:16 am »
Quote from: Lil B on November 08, 2012, 11:21:08 am
I'm curious,not about will or wont it happen...but how do we feel about it...Yahoo's front page has a poll about this...

I'll add a poll...Simple yes or No...

I'm not sure what the Democrat,Republican power shift would be with this...but as an suggestion I think you could give Washington D.C. state hood power along with Puerto Rico..and go 52..

Good idea to add a poll, Lil B.  I'm all for it.  I wouldn't mind seeing an additional star on the flag.  But instead of making D.C. a state, why not split California into two?
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