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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2012, 11:21:06 pm »

If the Secret Service should decide to talk to her, nothing will happen. They investigate all kinds of comments made every year. This is nothing new.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2012, 11:34:36 am »


My take.

The Secret Service will and should investigate.  And absent any additional finding of evidence no charges will be filed. 

Like Landshark said, it's illegal to threaten anyone. Furthermore, if you haven't broken the law there is no need to be "hearing from" law enforcement at all.

Absolutely incorrect.  The government does not need proof that a suspect committed a crime to investigate that person, just a reasonable suspicion that criminal activity is afoot.  In order to arrest or search they need probable cause. If we required the police to know someone committed a crime before contacting them their would be almost no crimes solved.

Here there is a reasonable suspicion that this individual is a threat to the president.  No hard proof that she has articulated an illegal threat, but more than enough to warrant investigating (e.g. talking to neighbors, coworkers, other online postings, asking to speak with her) but probably not enough to arrest her or search her home.

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You are under no obligation to discuss anything with them.

This part you got correct, she can exercise her 5th amendment right to remain silent.

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Much to the dismay of the Obama minions, this is not Russia or China yet.

Can you point to a single piece of legislation proposed by the Obama administration or executive order issued that would weaken people's rights to remain silent or other civil liberties in a criminal investigation or weaken ones right to freedom of speech?   I am not referring to keeping questionable policies that existed when he entered office (such as the Patriot Act) but new laws that further eroded civil liberties in regard to either freedom of speech or a defendant's rights during a criminal investigation.  If not that comment is utterly stupid. 



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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2012, 03:29:21 pm »

My take.

The Secret Service will and should investigate.  And absent any additional finding of evidence no charges will be filed. 

Yea, spend thousands of dollars investigating a little fat girl who stated her opinion because she is such a threat. That's laughable at best.

Absolutely incorrect.  The government does not need proof that a suspect committed a crime to investigate that person, just a reasonable suspicion that criminal activity is afoot.  In order to arrest or search they need probable cause. If we required the police to know someone committed a crime before contacting them their would be almost no crimes solved.

You are absolutely correct with your statement. However, I said that if you haven't broken any laws that there is no need to be "hearing from" law enforcement because you are under no obligation to cooperate or talk to them. Here is how that conversation should go when they knock on her door.

SS Agent : Knock Knock Knock
Little Fat girl: (opens door) Hello
SS Agent: We're looking for Miss little Fat Girl
Little Fat girl: That's me
SS Agent: We understand that you have made some statements about President Obama and we would like to talk to you about it.
Little Fat Girl: Am I under arrest or do you have a warrant ?
SS Agent: No, but I think that..........
Little Fat Girl: (interrupts agent) Go fuck your mother, good bye !!! (slams door in agents face)


Here there is a reasonable suspicion that this individual is a threat to the president.  No hard proof that she has articulated an illegal threat, but more than enough to warrant investigating (e.g. talking to neighbors, coworkers, other online postings, asking to speak with her) but probably not enough to arrest her or search her home.

Sure, waste thousands of dollars on a person that is of no threat. Are you kidding me ? In that case I hope everyone that feels like Little Fat Girl posts exactly the same thing all over their facebook, twitter, myspace, ect ect, multiple times a day. Gotta be at least like 20 million that think exactly like her in this country. Let them investigate and chase them all down while I sit back, watch, and laugh at the stupidity of the government. You see, people that are an actual threat aren't going to advertise it. They are just going to go out and do it.

Can you point to a single piece of legislation proposed by the Obama administration or executive order issued that would weaken people's rights to remain silent or other civil liberties in a criminal investigation or weaken ones right to freedom of speech?   I am not referring to keeping questionable policies that existed when he entered office (such as the Patriot Act) but new laws that further eroded civil liberties in regard to either freedom of speech or a defendant's rights during a criminal investigation.  If not that comment is utterly stupid. 

I wasn't even talking about Obama or legislation. I was talking about Obama's brainwashed minions that feel that they have to protect everything he does. Protect him from anything negative. Protect him from the little fat girl that wished he was dead and called him names. The same people that can talk about all of the oppositions shortcomings while the whole time ignoring all of Obama's failures and misdeeds.

But while were at it, the patriot act. Democrats blasted the patriot act like republicans blast big government. The fact is that the patriot act severely impacts civil liberties. And just recently a judge upheld the ability to indefinitely detain American citizens without charge or due process or reason. Not to mention the ability to assassinate American citizens abroad with drone strikes resulting in the deaths of countless innocent civilians. I guess none of that is a violation of civil liberties.

Here's his record on civil liberties from your own libtard website. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-w-whitehead/obamas-track-record-liberties_b_2119168.html

You leftys blasted Bush for almost everything he did. And in many cases rightfully so. But Obama for the most part is just as bad and has continued right where Bush left off. Obama is nothing but the black Bush 2.0 rebooted with Obamacare. That hypocrisy and blindness is exactly what makes a person a brainwashed minion of the messiah Obama.
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2012, 04:58:43 pm »

I don't think you'll find many people on the left that are happy with Obama's record on civil liberties.  You're kinda building a straw man.  The left has been Obama's biggest critic in that regard.

I'm not that far left (somewhat of a centrist) when it comes to those kinds of issues.  I was this way with Bush, as well.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2012, 04:43:00 am »

I don't think you'll find many people on the left that are happy with Obama's record on civil liberties.  You're kinda building a straw man.  The left has been Obama's biggest critic in that regard.

I'm not that far left (somewhat of a centrist) when it comes to those kinds of issues.  I was this way with Bush, as well.

I agree that Obama has not done more to erode the Bill Of Rights than the passing of the Patriot Act did. It is hard to listen to any conservative cry about loss of rights, when it was a conservative president and his administration that brought forth and pushed the single greatest injury to the Bill of Rights since Habeus Corpus was suspended by Lincoln, and American citizens were wrongfully interred into camps during WWII.
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2012, 10:34:29 am »

I agree that Obama has not done more to erode the Bill Of Rights than the passing of the Patriot Act did. It is hard to listen to any conservative cry about loss of rights, when it was a conservative president and his administration that brought forth and pushed the single greatest injury to the Bill of Rights since Habeus Corpus was suspended by Lincoln, and American citizens were wrongfully interred into camps during WWII.

One of my colleagues who teaches American Government has this book as required reading for his class.  It's an excellent documentary of how our Constitutional Rights stack up in this day and age.

http://www.amazon.com/The-War-Our-Freedoms-Liberties/dp/1586482106
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2012, 02:06:01 pm »

I agree that Obama has not done more to erode the Bill Of Rights than the passing of the Patriot Act did. It is hard to listen to any conservative cry about loss of rights, when it was a conservative president and his administration that brought forth and pushed the single greatest injury to the Bill of Rights since Habeus Corpus was suspended by Lincoln, and American citizens were wrongfully interred into camps during WWII.

Kind of funny that you mention that. I would counter that if you continue abusive policies of the previous administration that you are just as guilty. Even more so if you were against it the whole time and yet still continue those policies. Lincoln, one of the worst presidents this country ever had, and his suspension of Habeus Corpus which allowed indefinite detention of "disloyal persons" without trial looks eerily reminiscent of  Obama's signing of the NDAA. Come to think of it, Little Fat Girl could just disappear forever under the false label of being a terrorist. After all, the crooked ass government is the one who determines who they suspect as being a terrorist. No wonder all these state petitions going around about secession these days. Obama and this government is out of control and only getting worse by the day.....

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2012, 02:45:14 pm »

....Lincoln, one of the worst presidents this country ever had.....


That's a pretty big statement. I don't think anyone would agree with that statement.
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2012, 02:52:15 pm »

That's a pretty big statement. I don't think anyone would agree with that statement.

I don't either.  Lincoln is one of the greatest presidents this country ever had.  We all know about his heroic acts in the Civil War and the ending of slavery in America.  However, if you're interested to know about "land grant" universities, or universities that were formed out of federal dollars granting land to states to build the schools on for the purpose of studing agriculture, engineering, science, or military science, then you have President Lincoln to thank for that. 
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2012, 02:55:05 pm »

Here, I fixed it for you

That's a pretty big statement. I don't think anyone on this site would agree with that statement.

No not the worst president, but in the top 10. Maybe even the top 5. And yes, there are many that would and do agree with that statement.
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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2012, 03:05:13 pm »

Here, I fixed it for you

No not the worst president, but in the top 10. Maybe even the top 5. And yes, there are many that would and do agree with that statement.

I thought the KKK had memberships declining.
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2012, 03:17:41 pm »

I thought the KKK had memberships declining.

WTF are you talking about ? This thread has nothing to do with the KKK. I think you are in the wrong thread or on the wrong site.
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2012, 03:32:02 pm »

WTF are you talking about ? This thread has nothing to do with the KKK. I think you are in the wrong thread or on the wrong site.

Are you serious?  Pretty clear the only people who think Lincoln was a bad president are those people who oppose the ending of slavery.

It is now obvious beyond all doubt that you are not only a racist. 
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2012, 03:34:07 pm »

According to this wikipedia gathering of presidential rankings from about 20 different sources, Lincoln is no lower than 3 and leads the most with 1.
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2012, 03:47:38 pm »

Everywhere I've seen he's ranked pretty high as one of the best presidents.
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