Tannehill's regression

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

he never was really that good.

you're wr aren't all that good.

AND with all QBs there is a period of time in which defenses don't know much about them (a DC can't spend too much time looking at college film of opposing offensive players as he is too busy looking at NFL film of all the rest of the players) so their tendencies are unknown.  Most of the time the coaches are quicker at improving the defense against a young QB than the QB is at improving his craft.  (Hence the Sophomore slump) then in time the good QBs start to improve their craft to a greater degree than the defense improve at stopping them.  

You need to give him some time before you declare him regressing.  Just as the earlier statements claiming him to be the next Marino were premature.  

[el diablo]

When teams are able to stack 8 men+ in the box, you're already in trouble. Doesn't matter who the QB is. You couple that with a GM who trades away talent for rubble, you can't expect miracles. Its too early to call Tannehill a bust. Let's be honest with what he has around him. If you're going to suppress receiving corps talent, then you better be able to rush.  Not, "I hope we can." That's where we are. Other teams are daring them to pass deep on them, and they can't.  The running game worked when opposing defenses gave them room to run. No room, no run. Period. No run = no balance. No deep, intermediate threat= 8 men in the box.

[MikeO]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000095864/article/ryan-tannehill-miami-dolphins-enduring-normal-growing-pains?campaign=Twitter_lombardi

Lombardi breaks it down about Tannehill. Some of you might learn a few things by reading this!!

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000095864/article/ryan-tannehill-miami-dolphins-enduring-normal-growing-pains?campaign=Twitter_lombardi

Lombardi breaks it down about Tannehill. Some of you might learn a few things by reading this!!

Lombardi says basically the same thing I did.

[Fins4ever]

I've been asking Santa for a new GM ever since the Dez Bryant fiasco.

I just looked over your recent posting and just now realized how negative you are. You are not a fan of RT, don't like Ireland, traded Marshall for a bag of pretzels??? Really.

Seriously, is there anything you "do like" about the Fins?

PS. The media made a big deal out of the Dez thing. Bryant was not upset about it, why should you be? By the way, it seems to have worked out pretty good for the Fins. Dallas, not so much. 

[Landshark]

I just looked over your recent posting and just now realized how negative you are. You are not a fan of RT, don't like Ireland, traded Marshall for a bag of pretzels??? Really.

Seriously, is there anything you "do like" about the Fins?

PS. The media made a big deal out of the Dez thing. Bryant was not upset about it, why should you be? By the way, it seems to have worked out pretty good for the Fins. Dallas, not so much. 

I'm taking a wait and see approach with Tanny.  His last two games have not been good showings and I wanted to start a discussion to see who thinks what.

I don't like Ireland and never have.  And the Dez Bryant fiasco was not that the Dolphins didn't pick him, but that Ireland actually made those comments.  Those comments were extremely unprofessional and uncalled for.  And I'm on Spider's side in the Marshall trade as he was the Dolphins best receiver and nothing was done to address his departure.

[Alwaysdullfan]

Miami has no offense except R.Bush, thats it, I dunno why they got rid off Marshall..so defenses can figure them out easily

[Alwaysdullfan]

..to get rid of Marshall and not replacing those 1000+ yards is stupid, thats why Miami is not winning now

[EKnight]

They passed on moving up to get a real QB (not a converted WR, whose stats and winning % this far are as bad or worse than who replaced in the lineup). They passed on a chance to move up and draft a receiver who just went off for 200+ yards with Henne throwing it to him. They dumped millions into 2 linebackers who have not been worth nearly what their paid, rather than shore up the worst secondary in the history of the team. There's a ton of reasons they suck.

Re. Tannehill, if he has another outing like the past two, with the way Moore played in relief, they should bench the kid and let him hold a clipboard. -EK

[Phishfan]

They passed on moving up to get a real QB (not a converted WR, whose stats and winning % this far are as bad or worse than who replaced in the lineup). They passed on a chance to move up and draft a receiver who just went off for 200+ yards with Henne throwing it to him.

Very easy to say but more difficult to do, which makes you sound rather irrational. First of all, I can only assume you are suggesting Miami needed to trade up to either #1 or #2 since that is where they would need to have been to draft another QB. That is quite a jump and difficult to do. I'll just leave it at that. Second, while I was a fan of Blackmon before the draft, did you even consider looking into his stats for the rest of the season before you touted this single game as a rallying point for improving this team?

[EKnight]

He's been hurt for part of the season. Re. The draft, Miami had more to work with in terms of moving up than Washington did. Instead, they spent weeks chasing a QB who NEVER wanted to come to Miami in the first place in Manning. -EK

[Brian Fein]

I just looked over your recent posting and just now realized how negative you are. You are not a fan of RT, don't like Ireland, traded Marshall for a bag of pretzels??? Really.

Seriously, is there anything you "do like" about the Fins?

PS. The media made a big deal out of the Dez thing. Bryant was not upset about it, why should you be? By the way, it seems to have worked out pretty good for the Fins. Dallas, not so much. 

Agreed, and this applies to most of the posters on this forum.  Its sad, but its what has become of Dolphins' fans.

RE: Dez Bryant: it was a logical question given the context, and you need to mind your business.  Were you in the meeting?  No.  You have no knowledge of what was said in that room, and thus you are using it as an excuse to "hate" Ireland.

RE: Brandon Marshall: to say that it went unaddressed is unfair.  They tried to address it.  They worked out dozens of WR's.  The two they decided to go with didn't work out.  The team is trying to get younger, and for good reason.  Marshall was unhappy here, not playing hard, and it showed on the field.  He was the best receiver, but his effort was lack-luster and not worth 16 million dollars.  His salary was crippling the team with so many other needs.

RE: Jeff Ireland: You people will hate him forever, no matter what.  He has improved drastically the past 2 seasons.  Every GM has moves that don't work out, and moves that do.  Yet, everyone on here focuses on the ones that don't, just to promote their "fire Jeff Ireland" agenda.  What will it take for you to step back, look at what is happening objectively, and see the positive things.  Try to take his side for once.  Hell, try to SUPPORT the team for once, instead of constantly bitching non-stop.

[Phishfan]

He's been hurt for part of the season. Re. The draft, Miami had more to work with in terms of moving up than Washington did. Instead, they spent weeks chasing a QB who NEVER wanted to come to Miami in the first place in Manning. -EK

And the winner of the weekly "I pulled something from my ass to try and make a point" award goes to...

Blackmon has been listed on one injury report (the first game) and he participated in full practice that week. Not much of an injury excuse if you ask me. http://www.nfl.com/injuries?team=JAC

As for having more fire power than Washington for moving up, I guess you could say that is a bit subjective given the Dolphins have some extra picks next year, but as for this past draft where Washington actually made their move from, they had a higher pick than Miami so their ammunition was better.

[masterfins]

Agreed, and this applies to most of the posters on this forum.  Its sad, but its what has become of Dolphins' fans.

RE: Dez Bryant: it was a logical question given the context, and you need to mind your business.  Were you in the meeting?  No.  You have no knowledge of what was said in that room, and thus you are using it as an excuse to "hate" Ireland.

RE: Brandon Marshall: to say that it went unaddressed is unfair.  They tried to address it.  They worked out dozens of WR's.  The two they decided to go with didn't work out.  The team is trying to get younger, and for good reason.  Marshall was unhappy here, not playing hard, and it showed on the field.  He was the best receiver, but his effort was lack-luster and not worth 16 million dollars.  His salary was crippling the team with so many other needs.

RE: Jeff Ireland: You people will hate him forever, no matter what.  He has improved drastically the past 2 seasons.  Every GM has moves that don't work out, and moves that do.  Yet, everyone on here focuses on the ones that don't, just to promote their "fire Jeff Ireland" agenda.  What will it take for you to step back, look at what is happening objectively, and see the positive things.  Try to take his side for once.  Hell, try to SUPPORT the team for once, instead of constantly bitching non-stop.

How dare you shoot down "fan's" rants with logic!!   

[MikeO]

He's been hurt for part of the season. Re. The draft, Miami had more to work with in terms of moving up than Washington did. Instead, they spent weeks chasing a QB who NEVER wanted to come to Miami in the first place in Manning. -EK

They spent 1 evening (a few hours) with Peyton....not weeks! He told them no the next day, they moved on