Why is everyone in LOVE with Tannehill?

[dolfan13]

100% agree with maine's post...

problem is, why is this gm still around? the personnel moves miami makes are always reactionary with no vision. they had no plan going into this offseason.

sydney rice, ty hilton, pierre garcon, martellus bennett, all available... not like alfred morris played football 20 minutes north of your facility for 3 years or anything. hell i'd even say reggie wayne if you went after him right out the gate instead of chasing a fantasy in manning.

maybe if you give ireland 10 years at this, he will accumulate enough talent to turn this into a .500 team.

[EKnight]

Man, this is just a tired game... How many passes have our guys dropped that him them right in the hands? Bess, Hartline, Clay, Fasano, Armstrong.... Maybe if we had Blackmon. It was obvious why he got run out of town, just look at his nick name. Now, you can blame Sparano for that, but, it is what it is. People recognize that a rookie with barely any college QB experience is doing quite well and he has potential.

How much longer is the "dropped passes" going to be used. Marshall was blamed for it and everyone else got a free pass. Now he's gone and it's the rest of the recievers. Dropped passes don't accout for the over-throws, under-throws, and flat misses tht Tanne makes regularly. Reread some of the game threads and see how often those are pointed out. -EK

[Sunstroke]

How much longer is the "dropped passes" going to be used. 

Maybe until the receivers quit dropping passes?

[EKnight]

After this weekend, Miami is 18th in the league in dropped passes. QB's like Manning (both of them), Schaub, Cutler, RG3, Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, Brees, Luck, and Stafford ALL have the same number or more drops as Tannehill. They all have better numbers (even those two rookies) than Tannehill. The drops is not an excuse unless you're pretty high up on that list, and even those guys don't use it as one.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232

-EK

[Pappy13]

The box scores show less than 58% completions (27th in the league), 7 TDs (32nd in the league), and 12 INTs (10th most in the league). Speaking of Henne, he has MORE touchdown passes in 5 less games, and he got run out of town by some of the fans! So...why is everyone in love with Tanne again? -EK

Why would the Miami fans care what Henne did in JAX? Just curious. He was run out of town for what he did in Miami, is that really a tough concept to comprehend? The same can be said of Marshall. He left because his production in Miami wasn't much better than what Miami is getting out of Hartline and Bess this year. I couldn't care less what Marshall does in the PRO-BOWL, in Chicago or in Denver for that matter. All that I care about is what he did in Miami.

[EKnight]

My comment was in response to Tepop saying how bad Henne is and how he deserved to be run out of town. -EK

[Pappy13]

My comment was in response to Tepop saying how bad Henne is and how he deserved to be run out of town. -EK

Then why did you compare what Henne is doing this year for Jax to what Tannehill is doing in Miami? It doesn't make any sense. If you want to compare the 2 players apples to apples, then compare what Henne did in his time in Miami to what Tannehill has done. And if you want to be really fair about it (apples to apples) compare what Henne did in Miami as a rookie to what Tannehill has done as a rookie, but of course that's impossible because Henne didn't do anything as a rookie in Miami, so it's not really a fair comparison either.

Henne was given plenty of time to prove what he was capable of before everyone coming to the conclusion that he wasn't the future. It's totally possible that the same conclusion is made of Tannehill in time, but it's going to take time to come to that conclusion, few are ready to come to that conclusion now. You are certainly welcome to your opinion.

[EKnight]

I think you're making something out of nothing here. It's not illogical to point out that Henne is playing better NOW, and reasonably could be playing at the same level in Miami (with more talent) than he is in Jacksonville. If people can start entire threads dedicated to comparing Hartline to Marshall, one post comparing Henne to Tannehill is not out of bounds. -EK

[Brian Fein]

I am worried that Tannehill is heading down the same path as Henne.

Falling out of favor with the fans early in his career and never really getting the chance to develop.  Fans are impatient and will start to root for him to fail.  We'll be drafting another QB in three years because people have no patience for development.

Personally, I have no patience for fans like that.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

We'll be drafting another QB in three years because people have no patience for development.

Three years is enough.  Drafting a QB this year would be a lack of patience.  If after 48 games he isn't developed, it is time to look anew. 

[badger6]

I am worried that Tannehill is heading down the same path as Henne.

Falling out of favor with the fans early in his career and never really getting the chance to develop.  Fans are impatient and will start to root for him to fail.  We'll be drafting another QB in three years because people have no patience for development.

Personally, I have no patience for fans like that.

Henne's path was his own doing. And like you, I see Tannehill heading down that path also. I don't think that blaming fans for a QB not succeeding is realistic. Normally, if a QB can't show major progress after 3 years, he probably won't...

[EKnight]

Agree. Fans don't run a team. If they did, more would have been done to get Manning in Miami, what with the fan billboards and websites and all. -EK

[Pappy13]

It's not illogical to point out that Henne is playing better NOW, and reasonably could be playing at the same level in Miami (with more talent) than he is in Jacksonville.

If you can assume that Henne would be playing better (with more talent) then wouldn't you also assume that Tannehill would also be playing better (with more talent)? It's illogical to compare how Henne would be playing (with more talent) to how Tannehill is playing (without more talent). That is not a fair comparison to make and that's what you did whether you realized it or not.

A fair comparison is how Henne did with the same talent (essentially) that Tannehill has now. Tannehill has LESS to work with this year than Henne had last year because Henne had Marshall. If you actually compare Henne's stats last year with Tannehill's this year they are pretty equal and that's when Henne was a 4 year veteran and with Marshall to throw to. When you compare them that way (comparing apples to apples) it's understandable why people had seen enough of Henne and yet would like to see more from Tannehill.

EDIT: After rereading your post, I'm wondering if you were insinuating that Miami has more talent than Jacksonville on offense? If you are, I'm gonna have to beg to differ. Jax has Maurice Jones-Drew, Cecil Shorts, Justin Blackmon, Mercedes Lewis and Laurent Robinson. I think that compares favorably with what Miami has at those positions.

[Phishfan]

Agree. Fans don't run a team. If they did, more would have been done to get Manning in Miami, what with the fan billboards and websites and all. -EK

And it would have been an absolute failure in doing so. Manning has been very clear that he did not want to play in Miami, with all the billboards, cameras following him, and stuff.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

And it would have been an absolute failure in doing so. Manning has been very clear that he did not want to play in Miami, with all the billboards, cameras following him, and stuff.

Also Manning wanted to go to a team that was one QB away from playoffs/superbowl in an easy division, not a team that had multiple holes and was in a division with an existing jugernaught.