Ryan Tannehill may not be Dolphins' QB answer, says Adam Schefter

[Landshark]

Any Tannehill haters wanna run their mouths after their performance today??

**Hearing a deafening silence**

[EKnight]

No silence. He beat the worst team in football and still struggled to score touchdowns. 3 field goals and a bad play in four tries isn't a stellar feat by your QB against a 2-12 team. Yes they won; no it wasn't impressive. -EK

[MikeO]

struggled? He had 13 passing first downs. He was 22/28. He also ran for 50+ yards. He has gone over 100 consecutive attempts now with no interceptions.  His second streak of the year of going over 100 attempts with no INT's. He had 2 TD passes and a 2-pt conversion pass! I will take this kind of struggling every week!

It's not his fault Thigpen dropped a TD!

[EKnight]

He did all of that against the worst team in the league. He SHOULD have done that and more. Not impressive. -EK

[MikeO]

He did all of that against the worst team in the league. He SHOULD have done that and more. Not impressive. -EK

The level of competition didn't matter Week 1 when he struggled vs Houston and you ripped him and called him a bust at halftime. Why should the level of competition matter now this week? Be consistent! Isn't that you always say.

[EKnight]

I have consistently said he sucks all year. I'm not going to get Ito this with you in yet another thread. Done here. Post something else because you can't stand to not have the last word or walk away. Either way I'm not going to argue with you further about his performance against the worst team in the league. -EK

[Spider-Dan]

And now the knock on Tannehill is that he only scored TWO touchdowns against JAX?

Christian Ponder, Matt Schaub, Matt Stafford, Andrew Luck, and the illustrious Mark Sanchez all had ZERO touchdown games against JAX, in wins that were by a smaller margin of victory than Miami's win today.

[MikeO]

And now the knock on Tannehill is that he only scored TWO touchdowns against JAX?

Christian Ponder, Matt Schaub, Matt Stafford, Andrew Luck, and the illustrious Mark Sanchez all had ZERO touchdown games against JAX, in wins that were by a smaller margin of victory than Miami's win today.

Excellent point. 

[Landshark]

And to get back on topic, this was a game that the Dolphins had to win and Tannehill had to play well in, and that is exactly what happened.  If Tannehill plays poorly, Henne shreds the Dolphins secondary and the Jags win this game, there would've been some serious fallout among Dolphins fans, Tannehill's future would've come into question, and Jeff Ireland's job would be in serious jeopardy.

[Alwaysdullfan]

get him some weapons and then judge him. True...good QBs create their own weapons and automatically make stars out of no-name receivers. But Tanney is still just a rookie so i think its twice as tough for him, or not enough of work yet to judge him just yet. But a solid WR like Marshall!! would def help.

[EKnight]

^^This is weak. Show me a team in the league that couldn't use a 1300+ yard, 10+ TD receiver. When Brandon was here, everyone hated him. The consensus in the thread I started about the trade (everyone but Spider) was that they wre glad he was gone because he wouldn't produce in Miami like he is in Chicago. You can't have it both ways. Either he sucked while he was here and would have hurt RT's progress, or he is needed. Not both. -EK

[CF DolFan]

When Brandon was here, everyone hated him.

Quite honestly when Brandon was here ... he hated everyone. He became the product of the environment that he created.

RT has done OK this year. No single game should or will define him just as it doesn't Luck, Manning or Dan Marino in their infant portion of their career.

[EKnight]

Quite honestly when Brandon was here ... he hated everyone. He became the product of the environment that he created.

RT has done OK this year. No single game should or will define him just as it doesn't Luck, Manning or Dan Marino in their infant portion of their career.

I tend to agree. I think there is a flawed logic in repeatedly saying that if Marshall was here to help RT he'd be better, and simultaneously saying Marshall was a problem.

One of the issues with RT is that among the rookie QBs who have started all or most of their teams' games this year, he is the only one who has not improved his teams W-L record from last year, despite having an easier schedule than last year and depsite the opportunity to win late in games 7 times and winning only one of those, while the other guys have all already gotten more wins than in their teams' previous years. Indy is already at +7, Washington is at +3, Cleveland is at +1, and Seattle is at +2. And Indy did that while losing major pieces of their offense. A franchise QB has to be able to lead his team to wins inclose games. RT has whiffed on that against the Jets, Cards, Colts, Bills, and Pats. That isn't good. Luck has 4 already. Wilson and RG3 have 3. Even Weeden has 2 second half comebacks, to RT's one. -EK

[Pappy13]

One of the issues with RT is that among the rookie QBs who have started all or most of their teams' games this year, he is the only one who has not improved his teams W-L record from last year, despite having an easier schedule than last year...

To be fair about this you have to consider who the QB was replacing as well.

Indy is already at +7

I could have outplayed whomever was playing QB for Indy last year. Luck has been good at times and bad at times, but the +7 is not indicative of his play so much as indicative Indy's QB play last year.

Washington is at +3

RGIII has been terrific. He deserves every bit of credit for that +3.

Cleveland is at +1

See Indy. This isn't really something to be impressed with.

Seattle is at +2.

Russel Wilson has been terrific as well and deserves credit for the +2 here as well.

Tannehill is even, but Moore and Henne didn't play nearly as bad as Indy's QB's played last year and better then Seattle's, Cleveland's or Washington's so therefore the fact that his game differential isn't as large is not really anything unexpected.

And Indy did that while losing major pieces of their offense.

Tannehill lost the #1 WR from Miami last year.

I'd say that Tannehill has done a better job than Weeden this year considering who they both replaced and isn't that far behind the others who by most accounts have played EXTREMELY well for rookies. RGIII and Luck were both drafted higher than Tannehill and pretty much considered locks and Wilson has been a HUGE surprise, so all in all I'd say that Tannehill is in good company.

Even Weeden has 2 second half comebacks

But only 1 4th quarter comeback, just like Tannehill. A 2nd half comeback isn't typically associated primarly with the QB the way a 4th quarter comeback victory is. All 4 of Luck's comebacks are 4th quarter comebacks. The same for RGIII and Wilson. I'm curious as to why you changed to 2nd half comebacks when comparing Weeden to Tannehill? Actually I'm not curious at all, I know exactly why you did it.

[EKnight]

I'm glad that wasn't lost on you. While RT is supposed to be a "Rockstar," Weeden (who is nearly the same QB that Tannehill is- their numbers and struggles are very similar) has already found himself questioned as to whether he will be starting next year. Two QB's with nearly identical W-L records (remember RT took what- 3 snaps in the Jets game? That win was Moore's not his), nearly the same stats (QBR: 75.9/72.4; TD:INT ratio: 0.83/0.82; yards: 2,929/3281; %: 58.7/57.2) but Weeden is fighting for his job in Cleveland and RT is still touted as a "Rockstar." How's that work? -EK