Clayton: Fins might trade for Brandon Albert

[Pappy13]

Merling, White, Turner, and Henne suck. Vontae has talent but a piss poor attitude. Smith is nothing special. Langford is a role player. I rest my case! 

Miami won't make 11 picks this year in the draft, its too many guys for 1 draft. They will trade up in rounds. They will trade picks off for next year. They will be creative. They can't trade the 2 comp picks though which sucks

What is your case? That the draft is no guarantee? I'm sold on that, but then neither is bringing in Brandon Albert. I'm okay with trading picks to move up or to get future draft picks. I'm not okay with trading draft picks for Brandon Albert.

[MikeO]

Albert is a sure thing. Ireland's 2nd and 3rd round draft picks are FAR FROM a sure thing, in fact most of them suck! That's my case

[Pappy13]

Albert is a sure thing.

There's no such thing as a sure thing ESPECIALLY in the NFL.

[Sunstroke]

If Miami could get Brandon Albert for a second round pick, I'd say "do it."  I think Albert is a better LT than Martin, and it would free Miami up to use its first rounder on the best DB they can get.

[Pappy13]

If Miami could get Brandon Albert for a second round pick, I'd say "do it."  I think Albert is a better LT than Martin, and it would free Miami up to use its first rounder on the best DB they can get.

You won't get him for a 2nd round pick because you are still going to have to sign him to a contract. Martin is also a better LT than a RT, so would still have Martin playing out of position. I'd rather put Martin at LT and either take a RT with the 2nd round pick or put Garner there and save the millions of dollars that Albert's contract is gonna cost you plus the draft pick that could then be used on a DE. That still allows you to use your first round on the best DB they can get. That's a better deal in my humble opinion.

[MikeO]

You won't get him for a 2nd round pick because you are still going to have to sign him to a contract.

KC would waive the right and let Miami and Albert work out a long-term deal before the trade. Happens all the time

[Sunstroke]

^^^ Exactly...and my original comment about cost was considering "only" the draft pick compensation. I didn't actually think he'd be playing for free once he got here.

[Pappy13]

KC would waive the right and let Miami and Albert work out a long-term deal before the trade. Happens all the time

You think Albert is gonna work for free? You still are gonna have to work out a long-term deal that is going to pay him millions. You can sign a 2nd round draft choice for pennies comparitively speaking.

[Pappy13]

^^^ Exactly...and my original comment about cost was considering "only" the draft pick compensation. I didn't actually think he'd be playing for free once he got here.

I realize that you weren't considering it, but I am and I don't think he's worth giving up a 2nd just for the right to work out a deal with him that will pay him millions. If he was a free agent and we didn't have to give up a 2nd to sign him, that would be a different story and then I would consider it.

[MikeO]

You think Albert is gonna work for free? You still are gonna have to work out a long-term deal that is going to pay him millions. You can sign a 2nd round draft choice for pennies comparitively speaking.

Which leads me back to my original point....have you seen Ireland's history of 2nd round picks?

Miami has the cap space to pay Albert. Albert will cost LESS than Jake Long. It's a win-win for Miami on all levels!

[Sunstroke]

I realize that you weren't considering it, but I am and I don't think he's worth giving up a 2nd just for the right to work out a deal with him that will pay him millions. If he was a free agent and we didn't have to give up a 2nd to sign him, that would be a different story and then I would consider it.

It wasn't that I was "just" considering the 2nd round pick...but it was the aspect of the trade I was "specifically" discussing. Are you related to Spider-Dan, by chance?

And, for the record, you don't pay a 2nd rounder for the right to work out a long-term deal. You work out a long-term deal with him, and THEN you pay the 2nd rounder.

I think 3 posts explaining "1+1=2" is plenty... 'Nuff said on Albert until he actually becomes a Dolphins reality.

[MikeO]

Winston is in for a visit today so it might be all for nothing. If he signs today Martin is your LT, Winston at RT

[mecadonzilla]

Winston should be a perfect fit as he was quite productive making holes for Arian Foster in Houston with a similar blocking scheme.

[Landshark]

Winston should be a perfect fit as he was quite productive making holes for Arian Foster in Houston with a similar blocking scheme.

Ireland whiffed badly on Winston last year.  He better knock it out of the park with him this year.

[Pappy13]

It wasn't that I was "just" considering the 2nd round pick...but it was the aspect of the trade I was "specifically" discussing. Are you related to Spider-Dan, by chance?

And, for the record, you don't pay a 2nd rounder for the right to work out a long-term deal. You work out a long-term deal with him, and THEN you pay the 2nd rounder.

I think 3 posts explaining "1+1=2" is plenty... 'Nuff said on Albert until he actually becomes a Dolphins reality.

Fair enough. Moving on.