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« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2013, 10:59:27 pm »

and those injuries became permanent.

Are you moonlighting as Long's personal physician these days, or have you simply added a doctorate in Clairvoyant Studies to your bona fides?


(translation: you have no idea whether they're permanent or not)

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« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2013, 11:16:30 pm »

Are you moonlighting as Long's personal physician these days, or have you simply added a doctorate in Clairvoyant Studies to your bona fides?


(translation: you have no idea whether they're permanent or not)



They probably are. Why don't you ask guys like Manny Fernandez or Bill Standfill what playing wIth a serious injury can do to you.
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« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2013, 07:35:34 pm »

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-miami-dolphins-0418-20130417,0,4041252.story?track=rss

Fins and KC close on a deal. 2nd rounder only!!

I love this move if they pull it off!!!
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« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2013, 08:41:18 pm »

I'm cautiously optimistic...I like this better than trading up to get some one...
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« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2013, 09:38:29 am »

Armando sums it up nicely here.

This is far from being a slam dunk and that's why it's taking so long for Miami to pull the trigger and I'm still hoping they just ease the hammer back. Fans always believe the other side of the fence is so much greener when the reality is they've just spread a lot of BS over there. I say keep the pick, move Martin to LT who played better there then he did on the right side, take a RT or guard in the 2nd round and see how it all plays out. If after the draft you don't like what you have go after Winston.
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« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2013, 09:55:46 am »


Armando sums it up nicely here.

Fans always believe the other side of the fence is so much greener when the reality is they've just spread a lot of BS over there.

Something is certainly being spread somewhere, but I simply don't buy off on Armando's scenario... It makes too many assumptions. It assumes that we can find a trade partner in the top-3 to trade up with, and it assumes we can do that at a price that isn't ridiculously prohibitive. It assumes that Branden Albert won't get traded anywhere else, and it assumes that Winston won't sign somewhere else.

Assumptions are groovy when you're writing a column though...you can just let the imagination run wild and tap the keys until it all pieces together.


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« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2013, 12:33:02 pm »

Armando sums it up nicely here.

This is far from being a slam dunk and that's why it's taking so long for Miami to pull the trigger and I'm still hoping they just ease the hammer back. Fans always believe the other side of the fence is so much greener when the reality is they've just spread a lot of BS over there. I say keep the pick, move Martin to LT who played better there then he did on the right side, take a RT or guard in the 2nd round and see how it all plays out. If after the draft you don't like what you have go after Winston.
Winston sucks or else he wouldn't have been cut twice in two years. Signing him dosn't solve the RT problem. He is a below average player at this stage in his career

Trading for Albert would be the best move they can make. Guy had an outstanding season last year. He is a very good LT. Not great, but very very good.
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« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2013, 01:28:45 pm »

Winston sucks or else he wouldn't have been cut twice in two years. Signing him dosn't solve the RT problem. He is a below average player at this stage in his career

Trading for Albert would be the best move they can make. Guy had an outstanding season last year. He is a very good LT. Not great, but very very good.

Exactly. Albert is good, not great. But still better than Martin at LT. If Martin was a true replacement for Long, there would be no trade talk for Albert or the draft.
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« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2013, 01:50:04 pm »

Exactly. Albert is good, not great. But still better than Martin at LT. If Martin was a true replacement for Long, there would be no trade talk for Albert or the draft.

If Martin was the replacement for Long they wouldn't have tried to re-sign Long like they did.

Heard on SIRIUS NFL Radio this morning that Long was offered $11 mill a year by Miami last September at the start of the season for a contract extension. He said NO and now he only got $8 mill a year as a free agent.  Ouch!
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« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2013, 02:49:43 pm »

Personally I'd rather have Martin on the left side then on the right. Everything that I've heard indicated that Martin played much better when he switched to the left side and that's without having spent any time practicing there. He played LT in college. Give him a full offseason on the left side and I think he'll be more than an adequate replacement for Long. He played OK on the right side, but nothing great. I really don't want him as the RT next year. I think Winston would be an improvement over Martin at RT.
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« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2013, 03:49:44 pm »

Conflicting reports,The Dolphins had permission to talk Alberts,Andy Reid denies giving Miami permission....

@AdamSchefter: Chiefs have given Dolphins permission to talk to OT Branden Albert to help facilitate a trade for a 2nd-rd pick, per John Clayton.

@JasonLaCanfora: Dolphins trying to get an OT before draft via trade; Dallas remains interested in T Tyson Clabo and Eric Winston but $$ and cap crunch...

@finsjesse: Mayock sees all three LTs gone by 7. If Albert costs you #54: "I'm in." Specific to Dolphins.

@AlbertBreer: RT @adamteicher: Andy Reid denied the chiefs have given permission to the Dolphins to speak with Branden Albert

@AlbertBreer: I'll also say that I hardly think there's a consensus in the Dolphins' building that going after Branden Albert is the way to go.

(Sorry no links (rendering in 3d program) it's bitch just copying the tweets..)

I hate the week before the draft with this mis-information...
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« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2013, 06:36:40 pm »

Reid has to say that being in his position (incase the deal falls through so KC doesn't have egg on their face and look bad publicly) ....so I don't believe what he is saying.

Sounds like this deal could be done early next week.

UPDATE: ESPN now reporting Miami would give up the lower of their 2nd round picks to KC. So the Fins would keep the better 2nd round pick
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« Reply #57 on: April 18, 2013, 09:41:10 pm »

I am fine with trading our 2nd rounder for a proven NFL talent, but he will just be an expensive one year rental unless we are going to spend big money on a long term contract. For that reason alone, I say keep the pick and draft whoever is best available.
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« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2013, 10:25:56 pm »

I am fine with trading our 2nd rounder for a proven NFL talent, but he will just be an expensive one year rental unless we are going to spend big money on a long term contract. For that reason alone, I say keep the pick and draft whoever is best available.

They won't do the deal without a long-term deal finalized. Hence talking to the agent now before any trade goes through. That's how this all works!
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« Reply #59 on: April 19, 2013, 07:06:31 am »

If Martin was the replacement for Long they wouldn't have tried to re-sign Long like they did.

Heard on SIRIUS NFL Radio this morning that Long was offered $11 mill a year by Miami last September at the start of the season for a contract extension. He said NO and now he only got $8 mill a year as a free agent.  Ouch!

That's what I was saying all along.  When others were so quick to let Long walk. I knew it. His teammates knew it. The Dolphins are taking a gamble, like Long's agent was taking a gamble. The Dolphins are gambling that Long will never be healthy again. I heard that same report on Sirius yesterday. You gotta understand. Long's agent (like everybody else's agent) thought the salary cap would be expanded this year. For the 2nd year in a row, it hasn't. The vets are starting to realize the bad deal that they agreed to. They thought by restricting the rookie's salary, the vets would reap the benefits. They didn't anticipate a restrictive salary cap. So, I can't blame Long for turning down $11 mil last year. Its only the 2nd off-season with this new CBA.

On a side note. No one on Sirius radio feels Martin is a replacement for Long.
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