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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2013, 06:06:30 pm »

Regular Season schedule to be released Thursday at 8pm
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2013, 12:05:25 pm »

Romo and Orton won't play in the Hall of Fame game. Cowboys are sitting a lot of their top guys

Hope Miami does the same. Nothing to gain by playing that 5th preseason game. It's foolish
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2013, 01:30:15 pm »

Romo is not playing because he's still recovering from surgery in April and they are taking it slowly with him. They don't want to put him at risk of getting injured. On top of that he's a seasoned vet, he doesn't need the extra work. Despite this Romo wants to play and says they'll have to give him a good reason not to play. Maybe they are a little worried about putting Tony up against Wake, Vernon, Wheeler and Ellerbe? Tannehill is a completely different situation.
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2013, 02:32:54 pm »

Romo and Orton won't play in the Hall of Fame game. Cowboys are sitting a lot of their top guys

Hope Miami does the same. Nothing to gain by playing that 5th preseason game. It's foolish

There is everything to gain by playing as many guys as you can.  With all the new faces on this team, a 5th game is extremely valuable
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2013, 03:07:55 pm »

There is everything to gain by playing as many guys as you can.  With all the new faces on this team, a 5th game is extremely valuable

There is nothing to gain. The game doesn't count!  Just like when Sprano was playing Jake Long right before halftime of the last preseason game when every team across the league didn't play their starters or benched them after 1 series and got Jake's leg hurt in meaningless time. Playing star players in a 5th and meaningless presesaon game is asking for trouble!

Give them a series at most in these games and with a 5th preseason game I got no problem benching them all together
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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2013, 04:28:39 pm »

Injuries are a part of the game and you can't predict when they will happen. If Long doesn't get hurt in a preseason game, what's to say he doesn't get hurt on the first play of the regular season and then what difference did it make? You can't let injuries dictate getting prepared. Now, if you are prepared, there's no reason to risk it, but I don't think anyone believes that everyone is ready to play the season now. Use the time to get prepared and then give them the rest they need, not vice versa.
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2013, 07:43:26 pm »

Injuries are a part of the game and you can't predict when they will happen.

If he gets hurt in a regular season game you can live with it. If you are risking a guy for no reason in meaningless games with no value...then it becomes plain stupid!Play a series or two then get everyone out. Since there are 5 preseason games there are a bunch of guys who should be sitting out the first two or the last two and not even dress.
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2013, 11:27:20 pm »

If he gets hurt in a regular season game you can live with it.
And if he's not ready to play you lose the game even with him. You have to prepare your players even if it means risking them to injury. Once they are fully prepared for the season then you can sit them out and not a second before.
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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2013, 12:50:30 am »

And if he's not ready to play you lose the game even with him. You have to prepare your players even if it means risking them to injury. Once they are fully prepared for the season then you can sit them out and not a second before.

There is still practice which you can get more quality work done in than these meaningless games.
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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2013, 06:29:58 am »

There is still practice which you can get more quality work done in than these meaningless games.

Getting ready for the season requires a level of intensity that increases injury risk, whether in practice or pre-season game. No amount of time on a stationary bike will get anyone ready for actual football games,
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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2013, 07:47:27 am »

There is still practice which you can get more quality work done in than these meaningless games.
Practice certainly can help you prepare, but in preseason games you get to see things that you never see in practice. You are facing different people, running different offenses/defenses etc. On top of that practice speed/contact is one thing and game speed/contact is another. Preseason games do have value and yes with that there comes some risk. The trick is finding the right balance of using the preseason to get prepared while not over exposing the players to the risk.

Besides, it's not like players don't get hurt in practice all the time too.
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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2013, 04:16:23 pm »

My take is play mostly the guys who are still on their rookie contract or maybe a recently acquired FA who need practice with the system.  But the vets only need a small amount of playing time to warm up for the season.

A guy like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning isn't going to get much out taking snaps in a preseason game.  Even a guy like Orton or Sanchez  has enough experience that one more game isn't going to have much benefit their skills (or lack thereof) isn't going to change much at this point.   

On the other hand a guy like Tannehill or Geno Smith would benifit greatly from the game reps.   
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2013, 07:23:35 pm »

A guy like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning isn't going to get much out taking snaps in a preseason game.

unless, you know, you're throwing to a completely new group of players... as far as I can tell, Brady could be without his #1, #2, #3, #4, and #5 targets from last year -- Gronk isn't back from multiple surgeries, post-op infections, more surgery... Even if he makes the season opener, you'd really want to try out your other options. That leads to Lloyd, who could still be resigned.

You can practice with receivers all you want, but game day timing is different and any reps that could help that along would be extremely useful.
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2013, 08:19:30 pm »

A guy like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning isn't going to get much out taking snaps in a preseason game.  Even a guy like Orton or Sanchez  has enough experience that one more game isn't going to have much benefit their skills (or lack thereof) isn't going to change much at this point.   

On the other hand a guy like Tannehill or Geno Smith would benifit greatly from the game reps.   

This is exactly my point.  With all the new faces on this team, certain players need as much game time work as possible.  That's why this extra game will be beneficial.
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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2013, 07:00:42 am »

This is exactly my point.  With all the new faces on this team, certain players need as much game time work as possible.  That's why this extra game will be beneficial.

Preseason football isn't real "game time". It's a joke. It's on par with the pro bowl. At least in a practice you got guys in somewhat of a controlled environment and while yes there is still risk (as we saw this week) the risk is greatly reduced!

Philbin said yesterday at his press conference that he and the staff are going to sit down this week and see who actually dresses this week for the Cowboys game. Hopefully he has a little common sense and doesn't dress anyone of any significance on this team.
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