Zimmerman at it again

[pondwater]

Ohhhhh we got a tough guy here! You go right ahead and use it whenever you need to to make you feel better about your own inadequacies. If trivializing the death of a child makes you feel better about your lack of manhood, then go right ahead, but know that there will always be people who will speak out against it, whether it's me or someone else. -EK

Is there something wrong with you? As noted, if you re read the post in question, Trayvon Martin was never mentioned or implied. So if you're butt hurt over the verdict, take it up with the courthouse in Sanford. Now go outside and play or something.

[Landshark]

I have already explained it as much as I'm going to. I will type "lol" when and where I want to. If you don't like it, that's your problem. Is that FACT enough for you? Go argue with MikeO or something

Ohhhhh we got a tough guy here! You go right ahead and use it whenever you need to to make you feel better about your own inadequacies. If trivializing the death of a child makes you feel better about your lack of manhood, then go right ahead, but know that there will always be people who will speak out against it, whether it's me or someone else. -EK

Is there something wrong with you? As noted, if you re read the post in question, Trayvon Martin was never mentioned or implied. So if you're butt hurt over the verdict, take it up with the courthouse in Sanford. Now go outside and play or something.

[Spider-Dan]

Were Zimmermans injuries caused by Martin?

Martin's injuries (specifically: the gunshot wound) were definitely caused by Zimmerman, so I'm not sure I see your point.

The jury made no determination as to whether Martin was guilty of assault, because that was not in the scope of the trial.  The only thing the verdict tells you is that the jury did not find that the state had proven the crimes they had charged Zimmerman with.

For someone that loves to complain about skewing of facts by the biased media, you sure are playing fast and loose with those unproven claims of assault.  As I just stated, the fact that Casey claimed someone kidnapped Caylee and the jury found her not guilty does NOT mean that the jury found that someone is guilty of kidnapping Caylee.

[Buddhagirl]

Damn girl, go google it. Somewhere Zimmerman stated that his wife hit him with the iPad and that is how it got broken.

I have. Even the police chief(in emails released tonight) acknowledges that George broke the iPad and punched his father in law. Like you said, Google it.

[Spider-Dan]

No, you mustn't Google it!

I have it under good authority that if you Google it, you will only find what The Media has to say.  And we cannot trust The Media!

...unless they are taking a victory lap after a conservative victory in an election, in which case citing the media is not only allowed, it's encouraged!

[bsmooth]

He had injuries consistent with being assaulted and Martin had none. Plus the little fact that his defense was self defense and he was found not guilty. The jury must have believed he was defending himself. Common sense.

Yes. But what Zimmerman fanboys keep forgetting is that there is no evidence who started the fight. Zimmerman could have easily confronted Martin, and perhaps grabbed him to detain him until the police arrived. This is an important detail the trolls like you purposely ignore when you keep mentioning the injuries. You also ignore the testimony from the medical experts that stated under oath that ZImmerman's head injuries could have come from moving his head on the ground.
He was found guilty because the jury could not find enough evidence to convict, even though their initial vote was to convict by five of the six jurors.
You really have a hard on for this case. You belong to Stormfront?

[pondwater]

Yes. But what Zimmerman fanboys keep forgetting is that there is no evidence who started the fight. Zimmerman could have easily confronted Martin, and perhaps grabbed him to detain him until the police arrived. This is an important detail the trolls like you purposely ignore when you keep mentioning the injuries. You also ignore the testimony from the medical experts that stated under oath that ZImmerman's head injuries could have come from moving his head on the ground.
He was found guilty because the jury could not find enough evidence to convict, even though their initial vote was to convict by five of the six jurors.
You really have a hard on for this case. You belong to Stormfront?

Think again, I didn't start this thread. What's stormfront?

[Phishfan]

I have. Even the police chief(in emails released tonight) acknowledges that George broke the iPad and punched his father in law. Like you said, Google it.

Buddha, you are going to have to show a link here. Every credible news source I know of says both parties claim the other broke the iPAD and the video has not been able to be retreived so the police do not know how it happened. This is why no charges have been filed. What you are stating is the exact evidence they are looking for in order to make charges.

[Phishfan]

even though their initial vote was to convict by five of the six jurors.

False. I believe the jury was pretty much split at their first deliberation by all accounts I saw. Three for not guilty, two to reduce to manslaughter, one for murder.

[EKnight]

I've read both accounts on the initial votes. Interesting, too, for the Zimmerman apologists is that the jury was certain of his guilt, but felt like the prosecution just did a poor job of proving it.

One juror: ""George Zimmerman got away with murder, but you can't get away from God. And at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with," Maddy said. "[But] the law couldn't prove it."

Another: "You can't put the man in jail even though in our hearts we felt he was guilty."

Not sure how anyone can cite the verdict as proof of not being guilty, when the jurors themselves felt he was. -EK

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=19770659

[Buddhagirl]

Buddha, you are going to have to show a link here. Every credible news source I know of says both parties claim the other broke the iPAD and the video has not been able to be retreived so the police do not know how it happened. This is why no charges have been filed. What you are stating is the exact evidence they are looking for in order to make charges.

Email from the police chief (in regards to something else) acknowledging that George broke the iPad and punched the father in law:  http://www.scribd.com/doc/167674421/Zimmerman-Lake-Mary-Emails

[CF DolFan]

3 not guilty, 2 manslaughter and 1 guilty of murder

Where do you guys get the jury thought he was guilty? The lady you quoted was the only one who originally voted him guilty but Maddy said she realized there wasn't enough proof to convict Zimmerman of murder or manslaughter under Florida law.

"I was the juror that was going to give them the hung jury. I fought to the end," she said.

Interestingly she also said this ... When asked by Roberts whether the case should have gone to trial, Maddy said, "I don't think so. I felt like this was a publicity stunt. This whole court service thing to me was publicity," she said.

[Phishfan]

Thanks Buddha. I'm not aware of the site so I don't know their reputation but if these are factual e-mails this is the first statement I have seen that mentions a definitive version of how the iPAD was broken.

[EKnight]

I've read in multiple sources that she was not alone. The quote that seems to come to mind is something like, "we wanted to find him guilty of something but based on the law, we couldn't." That's certainly not an endorsement for innocence. -EK

[Buddhagirl]

Thanks Buddha. I'm not aware of the site so I don't know their reputation but if these are factual e-mails this is the first statement I have seen that mentions a definitive version of how the iPAD was broken.

That site is just for uploading raw documents. The actual story can be found on numerous sites with further details. The email has been verified and the police chief acknowledges he did write that. Though, the reason the story is out is for other reasons (discussing the fact that Zimmerman is dangerous.) I'm just referring to it because the chief outlines the facts.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/09/george-zimmermans-local-police-chief-agrees-hes-sandy-hookwaiting-happen/69368/