Wallace Clears Air

[Landshark]

Damn it, people.  Quit bitching about EVERYTHING!

Isn't that what this site is about?  To bitch and complain when the Dolphins make a disastrous move.  They've made a lot of those over the years but it's too early to tell if this is one of them.

Good to see EK back and look forward to the EK/Mike O pissing contests that are sure to come.

[Brian Fein]

^^ wrong.  We want fewer MikeO/EK pissing matches.  Its bad for the site.  Please stop instigating.

The site is for discussion, not incessant bitching and compaining.  Give praise and credit where its due.  If you want to bitch constantly and complain about everything (founded or not) please stick to the Anti-Fins section (or perhaps another forum more suited for such activity).

[CF DolFan]

In all honesty I think EK has a right to question Wallace. I don't think Lil B was a fan of the move either as well a couple more people. The guy did statistically drop for the last couple of years but we paid him as if he didn't.

With that said I think he was the best option available and has made our team better just by being on the field. I'm happy we are at least trying and couldn't care less about overpaying as long as we still have money for other needs.  (similarly I think that's why we should have gone after Long a bit harder) Will he pan out in the long run? Who knows? We will have to wait for the answer to that. 

[fyo]

In the question of whether he was overpaid, it's crucial to look at the comparables. There aren't a lot, but Percy Harvin signed for almost the same (6 years, $67 million, $25.5 million guaranteed).

[MikeO]

In the question of whether he was overpaid, it's crucial to look at the comparables. There aren't a lot, but Percy Harvin signed for almost the same (6 years, $67 million, $25.5 million guaranteed).

Also Wallace turned down MORE money from Minnesota to sign with Miami. He took less to come here

[Brian Fein]

Price is dictated by the market and what other teams are willing to pay.  Wallace got what the market dictates.

Did Wallace underperform relative to his salary level in Week 1?  I'd say yes.  I bet he'd also say yes.  But its week 1, people.

Some of you are just not happy unless you are complaining about something.  If the Dolphins went 15-1 and won the Super Bowl, you'd complain about the one loss.

[MikeO]

The site is for discussion, not incessant bitching and compaining.  Give praise and credit where its due.  If you want to bitch constantly and complain about everything (founded or not) please stick to the Anti-Fins section (or perhaps another forum more suited for such activity).

Agree 100%!! Some people on this site just hate everything. Hate every FA move, hate every draft pick, hate the QB. Complain after wins, want everyone fired after a loss. Would rather be right and the team lose to prove a silly point than be wrong and the team win and be successful. Just some miserable people on this site who are never happy with anything. They aren't here to "seriously" talk about the Fins but more to get a rise out of people and carry on with the drama. And some people will never change.

If you aren't a fan or have not one thing positive to say go to the Anti-Fins forum and post and live there or leave!NOT EVERYTHING WITH THIS TEAM IS AWFUL/SUCKS/BAD!  The same ole tired "gimmick/act" some people have is tired and played out.

[masterfins]

Agree 100%!! Some people on this site just hate everything. Hate every FA move, hate every draft pick, hate the QB. Complain after wins, want everyone fired after a loss. Would rather be right and the team lose to prove a silly point than be wrong and the team win and be successful. Just some miserable people on this site who are never happy with anything. They aren't here to "seriously" talk about the Fins but more to get a rise out of people and carry on with the drama. And some people will never change.

If you aren't a fan or have not one thing positive to say go to the Anti-Fins forum and post and live there or leave!NOT EVERYTHING WITH THIS TEAM IS AWFUL/SUCKS/BAD!  The same ole tired "gimmick/act" some people have is tired and played out.

"Shocking" statement coming from someone who regularly puts down Dolphins players, coaches, GM, and Owner.    But, then again you are always right, and anyone who has a different viewpoint is living in a bubble.

[EKnight]

Absolutely! Mike had plenty of negativity directed toward Henne and Marshall, but God forbid someone says something about one of "his guys."

FWIW, I LOVED the Reggie Bush acquisition, the Ellerbee signing, the attempt to get a legit TE and the cutting of Karlos Dansby. Why do I support that last one? Because just like Wallace, Dansby got way overpaid and shot off at the mouth ("I'm the best linebacker in football"; "We're goin to the Super Bowl this year, guaranteed!"). And of course, when I pointed out that he should shut up and play, MikeO had a fit, because Dansby was one of "his guys."

We get it MikeO- only you are allowed to criticize Miami players that you think stink, and you've been clamoring for years to have Wallace, so OF COURSE you're too proud to now admit that maybe he's not really as good as what you hoped/thought. In two years he'll be gone like Marshall was- who I predict, BTW, will have had a better career as a Dolphin than Wallace will, with Henne throwing him the ball. So what will you say then? Upgrade at QB throwing to Wallace, and you'll have no excuses for him when he continues playing worse year after year, not better. -EK

[MikeO]

"Shocking" statement coming from someone who regularly puts down Dolphins players, coaches, GM, and Owner.   

I defend Ireland more than anyone here. I don't throw rookies under the bus after 1 half of their first game or after just 1 game period. I praised every offseason move this year because I thought they were good. I even defended Philbin for listening to his players and moving the off day to Thursday!! If anything I am a Ross apologist. What board do you read? SERIOUSLY!

I bashed Henne and Sparano cause they suck...and they did and still do.

[MikeO]

Absolutely! Mike had plenty of negativity directed toward Henne and Marshall, but God forbid someone says something about one of "his guys."

FWIW, I LOVED the Reggie Bush acquisition, the Ellerbee signing, the attempt to get a legit TE and the cutting of Karlos Dansby. Why do I support that last one? Because just like Wallace, Dansby got way overpaid and shot off at the mouth ("I'm the best linebacker in football"; "We're goin to the Super Bowl this year, guaranteed!"). And of course, when I pointed out that he should shut up and play, MikeO had a fit, because Dansby was one of "his guys."

We get it MikeO- only you are allowed to criticize Miami players that you think stink, and you've been clamoring for years to have Wallace, so OF COURSE you're too proud to now admit that maybe he's not really as good as what you hoped/thought. In two years he'll be gone like Marshall was- who I predict, BTW, will have had a better career as a Dolphin than Wallace will, with Henne throwing him the ball. So what will you say then? Upgrade at QB throwing to Wallace, and you'll have no excuses for him when he continues playing worse year after year, not better. -EK

Feel better you got your MikeO rant of the day off your chest?

[EKnight]

Feel better you got your MikeO rant of the day off your chest?

That? That wasn't a rant. I suspect any real rant directed at you would have included some sort of poll, like "What made MikeO feel worse last Sunday, the Pee Wee league numbers his guys Miller and Wallace combined for, or the 140 yards Jerome Simpson got with Christian Ponder of all people throwing him the ball?" -EK

[Landshark]

Agree 100%!! Some people on this site just hate everything. Hate every FA move, hate every draft pick, hate the QB. Complain after wins, want everyone fired after a loss. Would rather be right and the team lose to prove a silly point than be wrong and the team win and be successful. Just some miserable people on this site who are never happy with anything. They aren't here to "seriously" talk about the Fins but more to get a rise out of people and carry on with the drama. And some people will never change.

If you aren't a fan or have not one thing positive to say go to the Anti-Fins forum and post and live there or leave!NOT EVERYTHING WITH THIS TEAM IS AWFUL/SUCKS/BAD!  The same ole tired "gimmick/act" some people have is tired and played out.

"Shocking" statement coming from someone who regularly puts down Dolphins players, coaches, GM, and Owner.    But, then again you are always right, and anyone who has a different viewpoint is living in a bubble.

Absolutely! Mike had plenty of negativity directed toward Henne and Marshall, but God forbid someone says something about one of "his guys."

FWIW, I LOVED the Reggie Bush acquisition, the Ellerbee signing, the attempt to get a legit TE and the cutting of Karlos Dansby. Why do I support that last one? Because just like Wallace, Dansby got way overpaid and shot off at the mouth ("I'm the best linebacker in football"; "We're goin to the Super Bowl this year, guaranteed!"). And of course, when I pointed out that he should shut up and play, MikeO had a fit, because Dansby was one of "his guys."

We get it MikeO- only you are allowed to criticize Miami players that you think stink, and you've been clamoring for years to have Wallace, so OF COURSE you're too proud to now admit that maybe he's not really as good as what you hoped/thought. In two years he'll be gone like Marshall was- who I predict, BTW, will have had a better career as a Dolphin than Wallace will, with Henne throwing him the ball. So what will you say then? Upgrade at QB throwing to Wallace, and you'll have no excuses for him when he continues playing worse year after year, not better. -EK

I defend Ireland more than anyone here. I don't throw rookies under the bus after 1 half of their first game or after just 1 game period. I praised every offseason move this year because I thought they were good. I even defended Philbin for listening to his players and moving the off day to Thursday!! If anything I am a Ross apologist. What board do you read? SERIOUSLY!

I bashed Henne and Sparano cause they suck...and they did and still do.

Feel better you got your MikeO rant of the day off your chest?

That? That wasn't a rant. I suspect any real rant directed at you would have included some sort of poll, like "What made MikeO feel worse last Sunday, the Pee Wee league numbers his guys Miller and Wallace combined for, or the 140 yards Jerome Simpson got with Christian Ponder of all people throwing him the ball?" -EK

[MikeO]

That? That wasn't a rant. I suspect any real rant directed at you would have included some sort of poll, like "What made MikeO feel worse last Sunday, the Pee Wee league numbers his guys Miller and Wallace combined for, or the 140 yards Jerome Simpson got with Christian Ponder of all people throwing him the ball?" -EK

Your still on the "Jerome Simpson is an elite WR" stance after he caught like 25 passes all of 2012. So LOL...uh, ok!

I can't believe you brought that back up. What old debate you want to bring up next, the "Tebow will answers all of the Jets offensive problems"....or the "Tebow is a Top 10 NFL QB".

[EKnight]

Your still on the "Jerome Simpson is an elite WR" stance after he caught like 25 passes all of 2012. So LOL...uh, ok!

Nope didn't say that, but it had to sting a little seeing that particular player look so good while your boys looked so bad. Maybe that was a fluke game- probably was. But damn it's gonna suck if he continues outperforming Wallace.

Actually, it isn't going to suck for me. -EK