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« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2013, 11:33:43 am »

Yes, his "blah"ness is a story.  Bellichek isn't exciting, either....but the fact that he's a robot becomes the story. 

Yes, he's a robot who has won 3 Super Bowls. Prior to that first Super Bowl win, how much did you really hear about Belichick? Yep...nada. Robots are boring...but champion robots are newsworthy.

Again, circular logic.  People aren't excited because they don't know about him.  The Dolphins have the highest red zone efficiency in the NFL.  That's worth talking about.  My brother was arguing this with me yesterday and he said "most people can't name two players on the Dolphins."  And he's right.  But shouldn't the media then start to educate people on this stuff?  I guess we just want to hear about the same 15 players over and over again.

You're too close to the subject matter to make an impartial assessment. You think a story about Miami's red zone efficiency would be an "on the edge of your seat" feature? Bushwah!  You can sling around terms like circular logic all you like, but until there is something really interesting to report on for the Dolphins...something more intriguing than "Tonight on Sportscenter, Miami is really good in the red zone," they won't get the national media attention you're craving.

"...and in related news, Miami coach Joe Philbin passed gas in a team meeting...film at eleven."

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« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2013, 11:38:35 am »

^ It's not my love of Miami.  It's the comparison to what is compelling news.  Giants losing is compelling news?  RGIII sucking week after week is compelling news?  Pittsburgh sucking is compelling news? 

There is nothing inherently interesting about these stories except we're all familiar with them because that's what's always talked about.  Yet, here we are.

I just feel like the media MAKES the stories, rather than reports on them.  I don't like that.
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« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2013, 11:44:27 am »

Why is it that the conversations about RG3, Andrew Luck, Kaepernick, and Russell Wilson never include Ryan Tannehill?  Its like he doesn't exist?  Sure, he didn't step into a winning team and have a stellar rookie year, but he's doing pretty well now, and its going largely unmentioned.  Instead, they'd rather talk about how terrible Eli Manning is.

Why does the media latch onto failure and beat it to death, rather than praising the successful underdog?
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« Reply #48 on: September 30, 2013, 11:52:52 am »

  Pittsburgh sucking is compelling news? 



Pittsburg has a much bigger national fan base than the Dolphins.  And the last time the Steeler went 0-4 was 1968.  The Dolphins do something that has been done since 1968, it will be news too. 
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« Reply #49 on: September 30, 2013, 01:57:28 pm »

Why is it that the conversations about RG3, Andrew Luck, Kaepernick, and Russell Wilson never include Ryan Tannehill?  Its like he doesn't exist?  Sure, he didn't step into a winning team and have a stellar rookie year, but he's doing pretty well now, and its going largely unmentioned.  Instead, they'd rather talk about how terrible Eli Manning is.

Why does the media latch onto failure and beat it to death, rather than praising the successful underdog?

I think the media is on a wait and see approach with Miami... it's been a long time since the Dolphins were relevant so they're waiting to see IF Miami is for real.  We win this game tonight you best believe the media will start talking about Miami!  You'll have all the bandwagon media guru's and fans alike coming out the wood work..
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« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2013, 02:59:49 pm »

You guys are using two different arguments to make the same point.

So, which is it?  Is it because the stories are more compelling or because the teams are more popular?

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« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2013, 03:17:29 pm »



So, which is it?  Is it because the stories are more compelling or because the teams are more popular?



Both.  The Dolphins are neither particularly popular, nor do they have any particularly compelling story lines.  Nor do they have much in the way of big name players. 

People are interested in Geno Smith failing because of what he did on draft day. 

People are interested in RGIII vs. Luck for the same way people were interested in Marino vs. Elway vs. Kelly vs. OBrian vs. Blackledge vs. Eason. 
 
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« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2013, 03:29:49 pm »

The Dolphins do something that has been done since 1968, it will be news too. 
I'd settle for 1972 ... or even 1971 for that matter!!
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« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2013, 03:38:40 pm »

I disagree with this.  These stations are making their own news.  It's circular arguing.  It's not compelling because they don't talk about it, but they don't talk about it because it's not compelling.  Philbin or Tannehill are both pretty good stories.
Personally anytime 2 3-0 teams get together on a Monday that's a compelling storyline no matter who the teams are.
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« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2013, 04:28:59 pm »

Marino vs. Elway vs. Kelly vs. OBrian vs. Blackledge vs. Eason. 

Considering you included Ken O'Brien, Eason, and Blackledge in that conversation, I assume you think Weeden and Tannehill should also be included in the Luck vs RG3 vs Wilson vs Kaepernick conversation as well?
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« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2013, 05:31:21 pm »

Before the season started people were saying by the time we reached the bye week dolphins would be lucky to have one win.They are getting the pieces in place making the right moves etc. A win tonight and they will have to eat a little crow but a loss and they will throw out their shoulders patting themselves on the back claiming they were right all along.I am happy the dolphins are improving and I give credit to Philbin he reminds me a little of Shula.No nonsense wont stand for stupid penalties. Win or lose tonight I am proud of the dolphins and stand behind them. I hope we protect Tannehill a little well a lot better.
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« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2013, 06:41:40 pm »

People are interested in Geno Smith failing because of what he did on draft day. 


And exactly what did he do? His draft stock plumeted. I am a WV guy. There is absolutely no compelling story to Geno Smith.
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« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2013, 07:00:45 pm »

And exactly what did he do? His draft stock plumeted. I am a WV guy. There is absolutely no compelling story to Geno Smith.

Geno said he was going to go home and not return for Day 2 of the draft because he was pouting like a baby after not getting picked in the 1st round. Had to have his mommy talk him into showing up on Friday to the Draft. That's what he did!!
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« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2013, 07:04:04 pm »

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« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2013, 07:33:03 pm »

^ It's not my love of Miami.  It's the comparison to what is compelling news.  Giants losing is compelling news?  RGIII sucking week after week is compelling news?  Pittsburgh sucking is compelling news? 

There is nothing inherently interesting about these stories except we're all familiar with them because that's what's always talked about.  Yet, here we are.

I just feel like the media MAKES the stories, rather than reports on them.  I don't like that.

Miami is a 7-9 2012 team that has beaten 3 teams with a combined .500 record. That's not news. If they win against NO tonight, then they're a story. When Manning and Ben are a combined 0 for the season having 4 Superbowls between them, that's a national story.


Why does the media latch onto failure and beat it to death, rather than praising the successful underdog?

First this board bitches non-stop about the praise Tebow got in the media as a pro for doing just that, then it bitches about praising failure too much? Pick a side. When Tebow was winning in the most improbable ways imaginable, and was the definition of an underdog as a pro QB, this board predominantly vilified him and the media for all the stories, but now you're asking for more of the same? How's that work? -EK
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