playoff hopes

[Dave Gray]

EK, I get what you're saying.  I'm not counting those as guaranteed wins.  But, just as I'm counting both Pats games as losses, I'm counting both Bills games as wins.  I think we're a better team than the Bills and should win those games -- of course I could be wrong and "any given Sunday" and all that.  ...but from what we know, I feel we're a better team than both the Bills and Jets.

If we win the easy ones and lose the hard ones, I think we finish with 10 wins.

[EKnight]

So, after last night, did the Dolphins beat a really bad Atlanta team, or are the Jets better than people thought? -EK

[Brian Fein]

^^ I'm curious if you watched last night's game (Jets/Falcons) and have changed your opinion at all...

[MikeO]

The Jets so called "great defense" didn't look so great. Not buying into the Jets yet. Lucky win vs TB. Had 20 penalties vs a bad Bills team and won, fluke. Beat Atlanta (decent win). They still suck!

[Dave Gray]

I still don't think the Jets are a better team than we are.  I feel like we're being a little reactionary.  It was a bad weekend for us in many ways.  We'll see.

[MikeO]

I still don't think the Jets are a better team than we are.  I feel like we're being a little reactionary.  It was a bad weekend for us in many ways.  We'll see.

Jets have gotten TB, Buffalo, Tenn early on this season.....either bad/awful or average teams at best. Miami has played New Orleans, Baltimore, Indy....top tier level teams.

Let's see how the Jets fair when they line up vs the Saints, Ravens,...etc. And I think Miami will be just fine when they eventually get the Bills and Tampa ..etc

[EKnight]

So when Miami beat Atlanta it was a quality win over an NFC title contender from the pervious year. When the Jets beat them, it's either luck or an unimpressive victory? -EK

[MikeO]

So when Miami beat Atlanta it was a quality win over an NFC title contender from the pervious year. When the Jets beat them, it's either luck or an unimpressive victory? -EK

Nobody said that. It was a decent win for the Jets last night. Everyone here stated that.

Overall I still think they suck, but last night was a good win for them

[Brian Fein]

So when Miami beat Atlanta it was a quality win over an NFC title contender from the pervious year. When the Jets beat them, it's either luck or an unimpressive victory? -EK

Please stop trying to stir the pot.

[Landshark]

So when Miami beat Atlanta it was a quality win over an NFC title contender from the pervious year. When the Jets beat them, it's either luck or an unimpressive victory? -EK

More like it diminishes the quality of the Dolphins win.  Seriously, Atlanta is playing like they never left that NFC title game.  I wonder what gives?

[EKnight]

Wasn't trying to stir anything. It was a valid and legitimate question. When I pointed out that Miami hadn't beaten anyone with a winning record, several people mentioned Atlanta as a quality win. That's fine, but you can't have it both ways- either it wasn't a quality win and the Jets stink, or it was and the Jets are better than people give them credit for.

Landshark- thank you for addressing my question. I agree- for the talent they have, they should be much better. -EK

[MikeO]

When I pointed out that Miami hadn't beaten anyone with a winning record,

Indy and Cleveland have winning records

[EKnight]

What were their records when Miami beat them? Exactly. -EK

[MikeO]

What were their records when Miami beat them? Exactly. -EK

CLEVELAND WAS WEEK 1!!!!!!!! they were 0-0, nobody had played a game yet!!!!! This is beyond silly, really you outdid yourself this time!! Seriously!!

Indy was 1-0 when Miami beat them!!

[EKnight]

I stand corrected about Indy. You're correct.

Neither Cleveland nor Atlanta were above .500 for weeks after Miami played them. Obviously Atlanta still isn't. My greater point is that Miami has played 3 teams that look like playoff caliber opponents, and they're 1-2 in those games. They're the worst team since Carr's Texans team at protecting the QB, and their remaining schedule is still heavy with teams that have strong pass rushes. This isn't an "any given Sunday" thing, it's a legitimate match-up issue. Miami can't run the ball, they can't protect the QB, and the play-calling is horrible. There's not enough talent on the field to overcome that when they are facing NE twice, and teams that you clearly don't realize are much better defensively than you're giving them credit for.  Teams like Pittsburgh, Carolina, Buffalo, the Jets, and even TB struggle offensively, but either get after the QB very well or have overall defenses that will force Miami to run- which they've been anemic at. Go look at the stats- I'm not making this up. If you can't run on Pitt, Car, or Tampa, you're in for a long afternoon trying to throw it. At 3-2 with the schedule ahead, I don't see 10 wins at all, let alone a "gimme." -EK