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« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2013, 01:26:58 pm »

Miami played Atlanta week 3, they were 1-1 going into that game. They were thought to be a good team off to a mediocre start.  Now, two more weeks later, they are 1-4 and they are being exposed as a bad team, or perhaps a good team with some serious problems and underperforming.

Things change over the course of three weeks.  If your point is to say that, now, the Atlanta win looks less impressive, I'd agree with you.  But you're doing it in a way to say that people are double-talking, which is ridiculous.
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« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2013, 01:31:45 pm »

That wasn't my intention. My point is in the previous post: At 3-2 with the schedule ahead, I don't see 10 wins at all, let alone a "gimme." -EK
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« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2013, 01:39:53 pm »

Miami played Atlanta week 3, they were 1-1 going into that game. They were thought to be a good team off to a mediocre start.  Now, two more weeks later, they are 1-4 and they are being exposed as a bad team, or perhaps a good team with some serious problems and underperforming.

Things change over the course of three weeks.  If your point is to say that, now, the Atlanta win looks less impressive, I'd agree with you.  But you're doing it in a way to say that people are double-talking, which is ridiculous.

I think that we are improved from last year. We still have glaring problems. The 3-0 start was kind of an illusion. Although a win is a win. We kind of scraped by in them. The longer the season goes, the more we will be exposed as a mediocre team.
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« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2013, 06:53:25 pm »

At the start of the year, if someone said that MIA would be 3-2 with wins against 4-1/3-2/1-4 teams, and losses against 5-0/3-2 teams, most reasonable MIA fans would have said that's a good start for a playoff run (given the rest of the schedule).

Does it really matter if the standings looked like this:

ATL 4-1
IND 3-2
CLE 1-4

or like this?

ATL 1-4
IND 4-1
CLE 3-2

If anything, this just shows that the Dolphins played better on the road than expected.
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« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2013, 11:55:02 pm »

At the start of the year, if someone said that MIA would be 3-2 with wins against 4-1/3-2/1-4 teams, and losses against 5-0/3-2 teams, most reasonable MIA fans would have said that's a good start for a playoff run (given the rest of the schedule).

Does it really matter if the standings looked like this:

ATL 4-1
IND 3-2
CLE 1-4

or like this?

ATL 1-4
IND 4-1
CLE 3-2

If anything, this just shows that the Dolphins played better on the road than expected.

That's the way I see it. The first 5 opponents were killer. And Miami survived them. Cleveland is showing they were no pushover and that might end up looking like a damn good win when all is said and done. Indy looks like a "great" win since they have now beaten Seattle and SF. Atlanta is hurting but beating Matt Ryan with Julio Jones and Tony Gonzalez is still a decent win at the end of the day. And there is no shame in losing AT the Saints (few teams win there when they are at full strength) and losing to the defending champs hey not a horrible loss. It sucks, but not a horrible loss.

Now its time to beat up on some garbage teams. If the Fins do it, great that's what they are supposed to do. If they can't and lose a bunch...then we got issues!
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« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2013, 09:54:30 am »

Update:

It will be a battle for the second wild card spot

The teams in the battle are:

Ravens
Dolphins
Jets
Titans
Browns

Miami loses the wildcard tiebreaker with the Ravens, but gets it for the Browns, however, if more than two teams tie, this is meaningless
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« Reply #36 on: October 14, 2013, 10:59:41 am »

^^ As long as Weeden and Smith are the QB's for the Browns and Jets you can knock them out of this conversation both are beyond horrible. And if Fitzpatrick has to play an extended period of time for the Titans knock them off too.

It will be a battle between Ravens, Fins, and maybe Houston can rise from the dead but who knows.
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« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2013, 12:07:42 pm »

Why has no one mentioned the Chiefs in the WC conversation? -EK
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« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2013, 12:11:40 pm »

Why has no one mentioned the Chiefs in the WC conversation? -EK
I'm assuming he said second WC because he locked KC in at the first WC.
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« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2013, 12:37:02 pm »

^^^^

Correct
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« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2013, 12:41:00 pm »

Why has no one mentioned the Chiefs in the WC conversation? -EK

do you type that -EK after each post or does it do it automatically


I think Miami cannot make the playoffs this year unless they sweep Buffalo
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« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2013, 01:13:17 pm »

Why has no one mentioned the Chiefs in the WC conversation? -EK

So, are you a Chiefs fan this year?
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« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2013, 01:32:10 pm »

So, are you a Chiefs fan this year?

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« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2013, 04:14:50 pm »

I'm assuming he said second WC because he locked KC in at the first WC.


Ah, OK that makes sense.

El Diablo- no, not a Chiefs' fan, but when one of the members of the board calls them a "fraud" at 6-0, it was a legitimate question. Their defense is- at least at this point- top 5 in the league if not better, and it seemed that they were being overlooked. -EK
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« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2013, 04:38:30 pm »

Ten years ago, KC was riding high at 9-0, en route to a #1 seed.  They were promptly bounced from the playoffs in their first game.

On a related note, guess who's leading the leading in turnover ratio?  Why, Kansas City, of course.

Guess who led in that stat last year?  New England.
2011? San Francisco.
2010? New England, again.
2009? Green Bay.

Average number of playoff games won by those four teams?  0.5.

See, when you win games because you're getting more turnovers than your opponents, when you get to the playoffs and have to play against teams that won't beat themselves for you, you tend to have problems.

KC is winning through a combination of luck, smoke, and mirrors.
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